muslims and jews at it again

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by timwilky

What I first thought about when I read the article was how the word crusade and derivatives are used within the middle east as an insulting title applied to non Arabs to wind up the locals against occupying military forces. I suppose it does conjure up the memory of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity nearly 800 years ago.

However, there is no need to change name. FFS if I remember correctly even the daily express has a crusader as its logo.

To my mind theses days crusade/crusader etc is someone who works tirelessly for a cause

Tim

You make a good point. It is entirely these different interpretations of the word that make this so difficult. To most people in the UK the word crusader will mean a tireless worker for a cause or someone trying to get a law changed etc. as you point out.

To a Muslim, especially one from the middle east, it represents a war on their religion. George Bush lost the support of Muslim community after 9/11 by announcing a crusade against terrorism, by the time he changed the rhetoric to a 'War on Terror' the damage was done.

I can see why the word is inflammatory to a Muslim, but this is putatively a Christian country and the word should be interpreted by local conditions. I see no reason why they should change the name of the team.

It's all a load of ********

[Biker Biggles]

Kow towing to a vocal minority is short sighted IMO.Look at the implications arising from the single lawyer sueing Croft circuit.If we cant do something that might offend someone we will never be allowed to do anything.

[chris8886]

Originally Posted by Jinxy43

So does that also mean that the PC Brigade will ask Saracens Rugby club to change their name as it was a Middle Ages nickname giving to those who professed the religion Islam, by Europeans.



What about the use of the word Moor, again used to describe people of several historic and modern populations of Muslim (and earlier non-Muslim) people of Berber descent from North Africa, some of whom came to inhabit the Iberian Peninsula.

So is Dartmoor and Bodmin moor, now respectfully called Dart and Bodmin.



I am not trying to start any minority bashing threads, just saying that this country has gone PC mad,

i agree with this and i'd be really miffed if my local team who i've supported for the last 10 years that they've been in watford and now partially work for, suddenly decided to change their name.

would you expect something like this to happen if you were a christian living in a majority muslim or jewish country and see the name changed? i don't bloomin well think so!

I really hope they don't get wind of this website, they might think were raising another army, http://www.crusader-holidays.co.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx

[Paul the 6th]

Good old religion

Has anyone seen mad max? That's what's going to happen you know

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

Has anyone seen mad max? That's what's going to happen you know

too right it is-there's groups "training for survival" and waiting for this to happen-when it does it'll be interesting to see what happens to all the religious nutters.

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by husky03

too right it is-there's groups "training for survival" and waiting for this to happen-when it does it'll be interesting to see what happens to all the religious nutters.

"Only when the last tree
Has been cut down
And the last river
Has dried to a trickle
Will man finally realise
That we cannot eat money
And reciting old proverbs
Makes you sound like a tw*t"

Banksy

[Paul the 6th]

on a more serious note, am I the only one who's had some drunken skinhead shouting in my ear whilst in the pub "YOU KNOW THIS COUNTRY IS GONNA GO THE SAME WAY AS GERMANY DID JUST AS THE NAZI'S CAME IN... OH YEAH, RECESSION, ETHNIC MINORITIES AND SEGREGATION, THE BNP PUTTING THEIR STUFF ABOUT... WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHO'S GONNA BE THE NEXT HITLER"

Needless to say, I had to nip out to use my phone for a minute... Taxi! Not sure why the guy even started talking to me, but I've heard quite a few different people saying similar things