Honda’s C-ABS

Its actually "Advanced Braking System" on things such as the Blade and 600rr (im not sure about the others)

http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/release/?release=976

Theres some info (With Diagrams) i havent read trough.

IIRC when the bloke where i work was explaining it to a customer last year who was about to take a hornet out, about the computer just looks at your normal braking e.g. pulling up to some red traffic lights you apply front brake it then thinks about it and applies pressure to the RR caliper but to only one piston, dont know if its the same amoungst all models though

Unfortuantly you wont be able to try it out on the 600rr or blade unless you buy one as honda have told all dealers they are not alowed to use the 600 and blade c-abs versions as demo's

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Holdup

Its actually "Advanced Braking System" on things such as the Blade and 600rr (im not sure about the others)

I doubt that h*nda using a different acronym makes much difference to the essence of the system.


Oh yeah, ABS won't stop you crashing if you grab the brakes banked over either.

I need to learn more about it what with only being "saturday boy" i dont get to go to meetings n stuff to learn about it

[TSM]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I doubt that h*nda using a different acronym makes much difference to the essence of the system.

The system honda have introduced is quite diffrent from the standard ABS systems we are used to.

From what ive read...

Forget anything under 5mph, as the system does not work in fully ECU actuated mode.

Over 5mph there is no direct action between the brake lever and calipers, instead your input pressure is sensed by a sensor and the bike applies the pressure to the brakes, it will monitor wheel lockup, but instead of letting off the brakes and reapplying it will modulate the braking power to prevent the lockup of the wheel, this leads to no ABS feedback to the user and a smoother stop.

The system is only combined electronicly, no longer as it was done previous.

Essentialy it now mimics what people have done for ages when they feal the front wheel skid they just let off some braking power.

If the system fails then actuators should fail open so its now a convential system.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Holdup

Unfortuantly you wont be able to try it out on the 600rr or blade unless you buy one as honda have told all dealers they are not alowed to use the 600 and blade c-abs versions as demo's

Thats completed retarded, how on earth can you evaluate a system such as this without being able to take the bike for a test ride.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Thats completed retarded, how on earth can you evaluate a system such as this without being able to take the bike for a test ride.

because they don't want people effectively trying to crash by outsmarting their demo bikes and ending up in hedges...

Some videos of the system being tested.

How it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTc19PFAiXs
Track Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlI_zTU7Gq8
Bruntingthorpe Test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kO6ltk3a0

[yorkie_chris]

Where's the 4th one "Yes you can still crash"?

I'd only jump on one, drive it to the end of the road and then grab loads of front, and then after I haven't crashed, loads of rear brake to test the system!

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

because they don't want people effectively trying to crash by outsmarting their demo bikes and ending up in hedges...

Indeed, its just one of them things you'd try isnt it

Originally Posted by Venom

I asked. You can test ride one.

My local Honda dealer had an option of either having the blade or the 600 with C-ABS and they opted for a blade C-ABS demonstrator and a standard 600 demonstrator. They said there's limited numbers in the country and out of the blade and 600, they thought the blade would be more likely to sell with ABS. They also said it'll be stupid to ask a customer to pay a grand for a system they never tried.

Really! is it solus honda dealer? The dealer i work at was told no along with many others, if i remember (which i prob wont ) i will ask why tommorrow but im sure he said no dealers were aloud one.

Also am i right in thinking your Kent area based?