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Old 18-05-09, 09:35 AM   #21
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I agree that the article is easy to read the way people here are. But none of us were there and most of us don't know the road that the accident occurred on. Even the police will be allocating fault according to a stringent set of "standard" rules and with the benefit of hindsight.

We've all pulled out of blind junctions - there's nowt you can do. Even going very slowly would sometimes cause an accident whereas to just boot it would have avoided it. I've been in situations where if a biker had come round a blind corner at the speed limit in the wet, its doubtful that he'd be able to stop in time. Now imagine I'm driving a van or lorry or campervan or car towing a caravan - same situation but 10 times worse.

I'm not saying the writers of this letter weren't at fault, but we can't be sure. If we saw the road in question we might be a little more sympathetic.
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Old 18-05-09, 04:03 PM   #22
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Old 18-05-09, 04:19 PM   #23
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I'm not saying the writers of this letter weren't at fault, but we can't be sure. If we saw the road in question we might be a little more sympathetic.
From the details in the article it was most likely this junction (Church Place turning right onto Military road) -> Google Maps
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Old 18-05-09, 08:40 PM   #24
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From the details in the article it was most likely this junction (Church Place turning right onto Military road) -> Google Maps
Which looks like 200 meters of visibilty.
Say it takes 10 seconds to pull out of the junction.
20m per sec is 45 mph.
So if the bike was doing in excess of 80 ??? which the Police might not be able to prove, did the car driver have any chance of pulling out without a collision
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Old 18-05-09, 08:49 PM   #25
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you couldn't do 80mph past that junction, not even close

it's far more likely to be the junction with southdown to the north west, the visibility splays would require a metre or so of car to enter the carriageway on military road before you could see properly but you can instantly see for a long distance once there, if you pull out slowly then you can see oncoming traffic easily and if you managed to pull out in front of someone there you weren't looking properly...
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Old 18-05-09, 08:58 PM   #26
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I stand corrected
Has everyone heard of that the latest BMW 7 series has side facing cameras at the very front of the car so that you can see out of junctions without edging out too far?
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Old 18-05-09, 08:59 PM   #27
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More importantly (although not as far as Mister Evans is concerned apparently ) does anyone know if the biker was okay? If they've smashed into the car hard enough to injure two passengers I'd think he might have been in pretty poor shape..?
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More importantly (although not as far as Mister Evans is concerned apparently ) does anyone know if the biker was okay? If they've smashed into the car hard enough to injure two passengers I'd think he might have been in pretty poor shape..?
you would think so but that sort of thing would have got around the bike community here pretty fast if he was seriously hurt, it would also likely have been in the local rag too
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Old 18-05-09, 09:10 PM   #29
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Dunno, I knew a guy who parked a GSX in the side of a car hard enough to break the drivers jaw and shoulder, he was ejected over the roof and suffered from a broken toe and a case of being seriously pi$$ed off. Instant justice!
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Old 18-05-09, 09:35 PM   #30
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Dunno, I knew a guy who parked a GSX in the side of a car hard enough to break the drivers jaw and shoulder
Honestly officer, that's exactly how the myopic, smidsy twonk got that broken jaw. I never touched him...
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