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Old 13-08-09, 06:09 PM   #21
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I think that a mechanic absolutely should prevent anyone that he/she knows to be driving an unsafe vehicle. I would actuallu think that if it could be proven that someone had that kind of trained knowledge, ignored it and an accident resulted, that person could carry a portion of the responsibility.

With the electrician....maybe not actually do teh rewiring, but again I think there is a duty as a member of society to use your knowledge to prevent people doing things that may end in injury. So........a sparky sees me about to turn on a light switch that he knows is faulty. If he doesn't stop me or try to stop me and I get badly shocked.....he/she is not a very good person at the very least...but if I were on their property or in their workplace...they'd also be liable.
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Old 13-08-09, 06:13 PM   #22
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Gosh I'm I don't have that dilema - I hate responsibility! Seriously though, I think you should be able to leave those responsibilites at work - you can't be "on duty" all the time, you'd never relax!!
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Old 13-08-09, 06:17 PM   #23
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i would say everyone is entitled to be off duty, unless you are paid 24 hours a day, like armed forces. If you saw a student drinking underage I think you should report it but not because you are the students teacher but because its against the law and they could become ill. Skiving off school - as a parent I would appreciate being told. But I dont think you should get involved just because of your job but because you are a helpful human being - some may call this interfering. Just imagine how you would feel if you turned a blind eye to young drunk and turned up at work on monday to hear that they died of alcohol poisoning. If you feel strongly enough about something follow your heart and do what you think is right. If you dont give a hoot then walk on by.
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Old 13-08-09, 06:19 PM   #24
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but what if I see one of my Year 10's (14 years old) drinking in a pub? VT - is this written into your contracts?
We had this situation for years, after my parents split up my Brother and I would go out for a pint with my Dad on Wednesdays. His teacher drank in the same pub.

Being of the sensible sort he simply chose to look the other way.

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I think that a mechanic absolutely should prevent anyone that he/she knows to be driving an unsafe vehicle.
I have no idea whether I would class as a mechanic. Probably not. But, if anybody tried to prevent me driving a vehicle I'd probably stick the nut on them. Well out of order trying to project your own idea of acceptable risk onto somebody else. Being told something is a fault is fine, but at the end of the day if I want to run on cut slicks, on a rusty frame with non functional indicators while wearing shorts and a T-shirt that is entirely my business. And the coppers if I got caught.

Tell them about a fault, advise if it is dangerous. If they accept that then keep your nose out!
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Old 13-08-09, 06:27 PM   #25
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I think that a mechanic absolutely should prevent anyone that he/she knows to be driving an unsafe vehicle. I would actuallu think that if it could be proven that someone had that kind of trained knowledge, ignored it and an accident resulted, that person could carry a portion of the responsibility.

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Huh?!!!! has that been proven in law???
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Old 13-08-09, 06:28 PM   #26
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If you saw a student drinking underage I think you should report it but not because you are the students teacher but because its against the law and they could become ill.
Of course they could become ill, and they will, it's generally known as getting pi**ed and throwing up, or a hangover. How else will you learn these things?

If you see a student in a pub and report them, they'll just move elsewhere and it will be an inconvenience. And rather than a quiet, sociable pint and a few games of pool, as we used to do after school. They will go somewhere quiet and sup a bottle of vodka apiece.

Drinking in a proper pub there's a landlord there to tell you to go home because you've had enough. Drinking down the park etc. then there is nothing like that.

When I went to uni I will admit to getting in the odd state of being completely and utterly mangled by drinking several months worth of recommended alcohol intake at one sitting. However I had an aim to do this and it was a serious rarity. The (mostly southern/posh) lot who had not had the advantage of drinking since age 13 would end up like that accidentally and put themselves into silly situations. Maybe because of lack of experience, more because of the "woohoo, freedom" thing.
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............. But, if anybody tried to prevent me driving a vehicle I'd probably stick the nut on them. Well out of order trying to project your own idea of acceptable risk onto somebody else. Being told something is a fault is fine, but at the end of the day if I want to run on cut slicks, on a rusty frame with non functional indicators while wearing shorts and a T-shirt that is entirely my business. And the coppers if I got caught.

Tell them about a fault, advise if it is dangerous. If they accept that then keep your nose out!
Totally agree with you YC
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Old 13-08-09, 06:31 PM   #28
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To be honest with the e-persona you project I struggle to imagine you headbutting a meddling kwik-fit bloke.

But here's one for you, a garage around Leeds actually told a lass I know that they weren't allowed to give her her car back (for me to fix, after it failed MOT) because it was dangerous, and they had to fix it! The fault was minor.
They soon changed their mind when they were reported to the police for theft.
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Old 13-08-09, 06:34 PM   #29
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To be honest with the e-persona you project I struggle to imagine you headbutting a meddling kwik-fit bloke.
Hahahaha! now there's a thought no I actually meant this bit

Tell them about a fault, advise if it is dangerous. If they accept that then keep your nose out!

Although I wouldn't blame you at all if that was your reaction!
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At the time I was very tempted, but calling the police was far funnier.
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