I do not understand the legal system

[Red Herring]

Tim, I wasn't trying to have a pop at you but rather those that appeared to be trying to jump on a bandwagon. From what you say it does sound as if your brother has got the dirty end of the stick and I do hope that whatever tales have been given to CPS for them to take the route they have get well and truly outed in court. If it's any help I've sat through enough court cases to have more confidence than most in the system. The way it works you are far more likely to see a guilty party go free than an innocent convicted.

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Tim, I wasn't trying to have a pop at you but rather those that appeared to be trying to jump on a bandwagon. From what you say it does sound as if your brother has got the dirty end of the stick and I do hope that whatever tales have been given to CPS for them to take the route they have get well and truly outed in court. If it's any help I've sat through enough court cases to have more confidence than most in the system. The way it works you are far more likely to see a guilty party go free than an innocent convicted.

Amen to that...

[QUOTE=Red Herring;2079242]Tim, I wasn't trying to have a pop at you but rather those that appeared to be trying to jump on a bandwagon. From what you say it does sound as if your brother has got the dirty end of the stick and I do hope that whatever tales have been given to CPS for them to take the route they have get well and truly outed in court. If it's any help I've sat through enough court cases to have more confidence than most in the system. The way it works you are far more likely to see a guilty party go free than an innocent convicted.[/QUOTE]

Lol, I know what your saying but those 2 sentances dont seem like 2 that should be read in conjunction with each other.

Originally Posted by robchester

Tim,

Oh and to the other posters, please dont turn this into another police bashing thread. We have enough of those throughout this forum which are quite frankly tiresome. I'm sick to death about hearing about the injustices of motorists. Traffic Officers are only one element of the service, the rest of us have our own jobs to do.

Rob, I do believe I owe you a pint my good man.

Having read through the posts, it's as plain as a nose on the face that the cops on here are just as pee'd off at the CJS as the rest of the public. For example...........

I'm currently on an extended attachment to a branch of CID and dealt with a job the other day. You may have read in the press about a 17 year old girl killed in Co. Durham - that tied up all the tecs leaving me to manage a burglary case.

The suspect (recently released from custody) and living 5 doors away from a 76 year old bloke & his wife - sneaks into the bedroom while they watch TV & nicks £900 cash, bank cards etc etc.

Using said cash goes on a spending spree (as well as shoplifting etc), and when locked up for being Drunk & Dizzy is found to have sheeeet loads of cash & the stolen bank cards etc, along with lots of goods purchased with said stolen cash.

House searched reveals more items from the 76 yeard old blokes house in the suspects bedroom (under the bed).

After a 15 hour shift the CPS would only allow me to charge Handling Stolen goods instead of burglary.

Reasons: - 48 hrs had passed from burglary to suspect being found in possession of said items (despite more being in a carrier bag under the bed), so some one else could have done it and given suspect the cards, the money, the 6 wallets, the bus pass, the old military ID card, the currys receipt, the currys delivery note, the opticians prescription - ( as a note to the readers of this post "NO burglaries reported in that village for over 18 months until suspect moves in 5 doors away") - are you kinda getting the picture!!!!!!!

Try telling this couple that the suspect hasn't been charged with burglary to their home but only for handling their (now stolen) property, and answering questions like "I was putting that money to one side for the winter so that we could afford to run the heating & the grand-bairns Xmas presents, will I not get it back??"

Tim, I have every sympathy with your brother, hopefully justice will prevail and a jury clearly see what is going on and return the appropriate verdict.

[timwilky]

An update, slightly good news,

I was talking to the bro over christmas, it would appear one of his attackers has been charged as a result of the injuries to my brother.

However the GBH charge against my brother has not yet been dropped.

Ba*t*rds, hope it turns out the way it should.
IMO shouldnt have even got to a charge.

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by timwilky

An update, slightly good news,

I was talking to the bro over christmas, it would appear one of his attackers has been charged as a result of the injuries to my brother.

However the GBH charge against my brother has not yet been dropped.

Tim, I really hope this gets sorted out soon, both for your brother and you/family.

The fact that a charge of assault has since been brought suggests the Police are still pursuing the right people, and are still seeking evidence that will support your bro.

Fingers crossed matey.

Tim is it going to Crown Court?

I have a funny feeling, somewhere in amongst this, that it will either get binned at court or a lesser public order conviction will be offered in the bartering process.

[timwilky]

Yes, he has been given his date for crown court. He is currently in the process of disposing of assets just in case things go badly, Houses now owned by his wife, businesses by son etc.