sheriff Joe is at again

Originally Posted by breakz187

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyuBuT_7I4

its 2 hours long???
im ok thanks

I have watched 3 minutes of the video and can tell it is utter drivel.

I am sorry, but it is already advocating the use of drugs and saying that the US Govt is wrong for targetting drugs. Drugs destroy lives. We won't derail this thread with it though.

[gruntygiggles]

The video is too long to watch and I won't bother for one reason. It has been put together with an agenda and I prefer to do my own research and form my own opinions on things. It's like the whole Michael Moore/George W. Bush thing....editing is a wonderful tool when you are trying to convince people to share your views....but editing does not allow a true reflection of the facts.

There are many things that Sherriff Joe does that I feel would benefit society as a whole and yes, making prisoners work, teaching them skills, making them earn money and pay for food which also teaches them a bit of budgeting means that they will have a much better chance at getting some pride, feeling some self worth and not reoffending on release.

Do I agree with everything he does? No. I do however think that his approach is far better than the standard approach. I bet the residents in his county are happier to employ ex convicts and welcome them back to society.....that can surely only be a good thing!

Originally Posted by Foey

The guy even sells pink boxers to help fund schemes



http://www.pinkunderwear.com/

don't you just love work firewalls

www.pinkunderwear.com/ matched the following banned categories:


Pornography

Originally Posted by Quedos

don't you just love work firewalls

www.pinkunderwear.com/ matched the following banned categories:


Pornography

Guys, all i was trying to suggest with minimal effort, was that your approval, of what has turned into slave labor is a bit questionable.

I think its good to get offenders to pay back, just that your example Joe is meant to convince retarded Americans to support this. Watch the video subjectively, like i assume you would watch or read anything else when you research. You might learn something and realise you sound pretty ignorant praising this guy.

I'm not trying to start some silly argument, but thought id mention that there is slightly more to this guy than the big headlines you hear about him and the setup.

Its nothing more than propoganda though. And i don't think anyone is in anywya being "ignorant".

Like GG said, and I think I also said, the fact that many of the cons are learning new skills and trades and how to look after something is brilliant. Yes there are things that maybe need to be looked at but at the end of the day, you do the crime...

[Spiderman]

Brakz, without watching the vid i'm sure you got some good points there.

However i think most of the peeps here support this guy and his stance only cos its soooooo different to the stance we take towards crims in this country.

America and its legal system leaves a hell of a lot to be desired, i totally agree.

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Brakz, without watching the vid i'm sure you got some good points there.

However i think most of the peeps here support this guy and his stance only cos its soooooo different to the stance we take towards crims in this country.

America and its legal system leaves a hell of a lot to be desired, i totally agree.

+1

My last post was to make my points. There is a mix of truth and lies in everything you read or see. I didn't watch the video because I've seen similar before, if I'm right, it's about the Drugs War in America, about Nixon and about the wrong people being targeted.

I agree that locking up the people that simply take drugs is not necessarily the best way to combat the problem. Thing is, a high percentage of drug takers break the law in order to pay for the drugs that they take. We can't simply stop punishing people just because they are not the major players. Breaking the law is breaking the law end of. Yes, it's a grey area, but the laws are there to protect society so need to be adhered to.

There are many many floors with the US system, as there are with ours. People Like Sherriff Joe because he's not just saying the things we are all saying, he's actually doing them. He's not perfect. but I'd rather people that break the law pay for it by contributing to the community, learning new skills and giving something back than simply being locked away to become even more intitutionalised, a massive drain on public funding and have luxuries that millions of people don't get that have never done a thing wrong in their life.

Originally Posted by breakz187

Guys, all i was trying to suggest with minimal effort, was that your approval, of what has turned into slave labor is a bit questionable.

slave labour for crims - bring it on - we are too soft on ours anyway
human rights have a lot to answer for