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Old 06-12-09, 03:59 PM   #21
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Nah I wouldn't expect it to be a bother. Remember also that with high compression ratio and diesel (direct) injection you aren't relying on gas speed to mix your fuel charge up for you.

Heater plugs draw a bit of power but not much. Biggest problem I reckon is it is common rail. Too much electronic boswallox.

Aye, what was wrong with the good old fashioned mechanical push in? Get that put on and it will run underwater... well with a big intake and exhaust pipe to clean air.
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Old 06-12-09, 04:03 PM   #22
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Exactly. See people off roading round here wondering why their new 4x4s are stuck in puddles with guys in 40 year old 2 1/4 diesel 2A's laughing at them.
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Old 06-12-09, 10:38 PM   #23
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i think its interesting and very possible that there will be a few gs type touring endurance bikes using diesel engines in 15-20 years.
im sure by that time the wieght disadvantage of the engines wont be as great as they are now if the evolution of the engines is as fast as it has been lately.
i did a course on common rail and diesel technology earlier this year, most of which was way over my head but some of the things manufacturers are developing are really clever.
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Old 06-12-09, 10:41 PM   #24
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That KLR650 thing the US forces got looks to fit the bill pretty much spot on.
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Old 06-12-09, 10:45 PM   #25
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Heater plugs draw a bit of power but not much. Biggest problem I reckon is it is common rail. Too much electronic boswallox.


common rail is much the same as petrol injection systems, one high pressure constant pump and the injectors opening relative to engine position, there isnt a lot to go wrong with them
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Except the fact that you need something as powerful as a 10 year old desktop PC to make it work. Fine if you're taking the kids to school but you wouldn't want to take one across the Siberia.
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Old 06-12-09, 11:05 PM   #27
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well no not if you could help it!lol
in theory though (well in my mind anyway) it would only need half the computing power of petrol, as injection and ignition is done at once.
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In 15 yearsid be slightly suprised if hydrocarbons are the main source of propusion. Never know though... ha ha
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Old 07-12-09, 12:56 AM   #29
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Ok, if we're talking 15 years ahead, how about electric engines... Maybe not completely electric right now, as we don't have the tech for batteries, but I can see diesels/petrols running at constant rpms (at optimum efficiency that is) to charge batteries that would in turn power high payoff electric engines.. which do torque & hp's really nice (not to mention they're more efficient)
I mean, imagine 100ft/lb torque from 0 rmp.. that has to sound nice
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Except the fact that you need something as powerful as a 10 year old desktop PC to make it work. Fine if you're taking the kids to school but you wouldn't want to take one across the Siberia.
I'm sure many have

Would CDI systems not be utilised on e.g. paris-dakar racers?

CDI has also shown to be reliable in many endurance races in audi's and peugots

Personally, I'm all for it.

Andreis - I think you have a spot-on idea there. It could be a stop-gap idea until we really can have everything fully electric Worked on a recent episode of top gear It could work better than the current "hybrids"

I think hydrocarbon-dependant systems will still be around, there is alot of research into making fuels from e.g. syngas and algae.

I suppose if public transport were more convinient for everyone, we'd all be happy to use that instead of getting in our cars to go to work, then we'd be able to save on all fuel period
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