Sarah's Law

at the same time i think quite a lot of the problem atm isn't the offenders but the parents, was in bristol recently on a saturday and walking around was a group of 4 children, no more than 12 and a small boy about 5 on their own with no parent around.

Another problem is parents making their kids grow up too fast, the other day saw again a child, wearing make up and what can only be described as inappropriate clothing for her age, parents need to get kids back under control

Personally if there had to be a public register it should only have those who have repeated or if they are threat/serious
I would rather there wasn't a register as certain sections of the public will not behave appropriately and that ultimately is not fair on the victim and those around the area.
I believe that they have served the time and they need supervision and those that are on for minor incident or trying to change deserve the same rights as the rest of us to live a peaceful life without fear of crime.

my worry is those that slipped through the net or ain't on the register.
and parenting should be brought to the parents there seem to be too many ready to blame everyone else for their failings

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

<Devil's Advocate>

Homosexuality used to be a crime



</Devil's Advocate>

And a further's devil's advocate: does it mean (as I said to someone in work who similarly argued anyone who fancies someone under 15 is 'sick') that all people in ancient times when you DID marry and/or start a family at a younger age were sick?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Viney

Its a bad idea. If these people have been convicted, then they have done the time for the crime. If they havent reformed and are still 'Active' then this should be picked up in prision and them not be released.

A said above, letting the public loose would casue all manner of issues and ones that really shouldnt be alowd to happen as much as we would like it to

I fully agree.

More legislation never stops crime.

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

This is a prime example where a close relative of a victim of a person affected by a serious crime should NOT be involved in any way with ANY lawmaking process involving the issue.

You just end up with laws that are based on a personal agenda this way...

Like laws banning extreme porno...

[skeetly]

It's not going to help much. It's going to cause a lot of trouble and it doesn't account for the ones that haven't been caught yet. Parents and kids still have to be clued up for it anyway.

I guess this means we better list all the crooks then?

I don't want to live next door to murderers, wife beaters, drug dealers, bike thieves, car thieves, burglars, estate agents, politicians, unsolicited telephone sales people and so on.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

This can be as "normal" as seamed stockings...

freak!

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by flymo

freak!

You have no idea...

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

When I was a kid it was drummed into us----Dont talk to strangers or have anything to do with them.You can have any amount of Sarah lists but there is no substitute for teaching kids to look out for themselves,and for parents to look out for their kids.There is no hi tech shortcut for this.

+1

As for the offender, it's not "normal" or "natural" to want to have sex with a child. Maybe it's just being "wired up wrong" and maybe it's actually a mental illness of an otherwise normally wired person. What about people who want to s**g farmyard animals or their dogs? IMO they are the same. Now people may say homosexuality is not normal or natural, but it's legal because there is no harm in it between two consenting adults.

I think in this thread and in society at large there is far too much emphasis on "monitoring" of sex offenders by the police. You can't watch somebody 24 hours a day without putting them back in prison. Whilst monitoring is essential it will never completely stop re-offending, and the emphasis both before and after release from prison should be on compulsory psychiatric care. Instead of reporting to a police station once a week, they should be reporting to a clinic once a week. Of course there will always be those hardcore sickos who can't be helped, but if in at least some of the cases we can fix the problem, surely that is better than simply trying to monitor the problem and just follow it round the place.

i can see why the police need to know with a regester etc.
I dont know if we do this in the UK but, I saw a CSI episode where a child went missing. The area was put onto amber alert and all sex offenders had to report to the nearest police station. I thought that was a brilliant idea we should (if we dont already defo be doing that).

If a list was public though that could be a disaster, people such as the friend you mention MBK will be get loads of abuse verbal and physical purely because people love to gossip and be bizzy bodies. If a child did go missing local to a publically listed sex offender (thier offence may have been dogging something totally unrealated to child abuse) but you can be certain that they'd be getting a pounding on thier door from the witch hunt that would follow.

[keith_d]

I think there are too many opportunities for mob rule with a publicly accessible register of sex offenders. But I can understand the paranoia of parents regarding "ex-offenders".

I'd be tempted to apply a spot of technology to the problem. Fit serious offenders with an embedded microchip and require that they carry a GPS logger when they leave their house. It can be fairly discreet, no bigger than mobile phone, and keyed to their microchip tag.

That would make it relatively easy for the police to rule ex-offenders out of an investigation because they could easily prove their location. Of course, repeated failure to carry the logger should result in another visit to the court, and potentially an additional sentence.

Not foolproof, but I would regard it as adequate in the vast majority of cases, mostly because it's a very visible reminder for the ex-offenders that someone is watching them.