The government has done something right

[fastdruid]

Originally Posted by RichT

It's easy to say that's the difference between them and us, but seriously - why should we (under the guise of human rights etc) allow this type of thing to happen?

Because we are better and more tolerant than them?

Druid

[yorkie_chris]

Case in point:

Originally Posted by islam4uk guy

"What the people will see is if you don't agree with the government and you want to expose their foreign policy, then freedom quickly dissipates and turns into dictatorship."

Well I guess every nutter has at least one good point to make.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Labour are a bigger threat to democratic freedom than any bunch of miliant muslims.

wooohooo someone with a bit of sense....

[yorkie_chris]

Well look at all these terror laws, I'm no lawyer but I'm fairly sure that causing explosions was a bit illegal before that!

It's reactive b*llocks designed to make it so anyone can be arrested for anything. I'd rather go to Moscow, at least you know where you stand there

[fastdruid]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Labour are a bigger threat to democratic freedom than any bunch of miliant muslims.

+1

Druid

With the Human Rights Act, freedom of expression is not an absolute.
It will be subject to such restrictions that are necessary in the interests of national security or public safety or for the prevention of disorder or crime.

So the decision to ban the march or group must have been made based upon this. The Government are perfectly within their rights to do this if they feel it would incite violence or crime...which you know full well it would have

[Bibio]

just like the right to roam act when they brought it out in scotland... ermmm we already had that thanks.. but now we have one which gives restrictions. talk about back doors.

Originally Posted by fastdruid

Because we are better and more tolerant than them?

Druid

That we are Druid and I am all for democracy etc etc.

The thing that boils my **** is that more often than not this type of thing is allowed to happen.

Let them have their march, when it becomes violent, they'll complain about being hit by Mr Plod and his big stick. Oh, here comes the free health service and compensation, please accept our apologies for what happened to you, do have a jolly time on your next march.

Still maintain this particular action is trying to stir up votes... Agree with YC's statement about democratic freedom too.

[Spiderman]

I'm with all those who think this is a stupid move. Terrorist laws are already overused and simply cos one group disagrees with a countries foreign policy does not make them terrorists.

Originally Posted by RichT

It's easy to say that's the difference between them and us, but seriously - why should we (under the guise of human rights etc) allow this type of thing to happen?

Its not about "human rights" my friend. Dont let the red tops fool you. You, me and every other citizen of this country by law has the right to free speech and freedom of expression. If we dont like something the Govt is doing in our name its our basic legal right to voice our views about it.

That seems to be all this lot wan to do too. Like i've said many times before i'm not a fan of this group in any way but as the article also says by making the proscribed all they will do is make them more secretive and underground and attract the wrong types to stand up for them.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Part of labours anti-freedom "terror" legislation has been found to be against human rights by Euro courts recently. Says it all really.

Do you honestly believe that ECHR will make a blind bit of difference in any European countrys terror laws? There will be a clause in there regarding national security.