33bhp, do you agree with it?

Originally Posted by Triv650

I don't mind the restriction being law as tbh, if I could ride any powered bike I'd still probably get an SV, restrict it to 33hp for a softer bike and then de-restrict when I felt ready.

Abslute balls, like anyone would deliberately make their bike slower for no good reason.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that? You'll be telling us that there is a god and Jesus really turned water into a nice Chianti next.

Originally Posted by thefallenangel

I think it should be more restricted

16 + - 50cc
17+ - 11bhp
18+ 33bhp
19-21 80bhp
22+ - anything you like.

If by the Ag of 22 and having to move up the restirctions you can't see that a throttle is a 2 way valve then you need to be in an accident.

Oh yeah, lets make it even more confusing and even more difficult to police while we're at it. I'd like to see the prices of these massively restricted bikes you envisage

[hindle8907]

I just turned 21, i took my test while i was 20 so i am now restricted for another 14 months. **I feckin Hate it**

33bhp restriction i think its a good idea for new riders to get used to a bike before they can jump on any bike but its just stupid how once your over 21 and sit your test you can get on what you like and don't have to do the restriction period.
it should be for everyone or no one imo.
but i dont think it should be for 2 years, 2 years is a hell of a long time .....
maybe 1 year would be ok.

but it is a stupid law.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Abslute balls, like anyone would deliberately make their bike slower for no good reason.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that? You'll be telling us that there is a god and Jesus really turned water into a nice Chianti next.

He's a new rider, I had all sorts of good intentions before I started riding too :

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Oh yeah, lets make it even more confusing and even more difficult to police while we're at it. I'd like to see the prices of these massively restricted bikes you envisage

well look at it again.

Under the age of 18 is the same pretty much as it is now, the 33bhp for a year is fine and after that any 600 non-sports will fit in under 80 bhp until 21. It's not difficult and will weed out all the people who find it too complicated until an older age. You'd be suprised how many people wait until 21 just to avoid 33 bhp.

[Bri w]

Age 51.
Passed in '78.

No training back then. Bought a bike, crashed it several times then took a test. Once you passed you could buy whatever you wanted, cash permitting.

I voted yes to the 33bhp limit but purely from a psycholoigical point, i.e. it makes new riders think about the power available.

I'm with Fizz in that I think its education thats needed, as well as training. Stick someone in front of a tv and let them see the results of being stupid, then train them.

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Abslute balls, like anyone would deliberately make their bike slower for no good reason.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that? You'll be telling us that there is a god and Jesus really turned water into a nice Chianti next.

Well I apologise for going into the biking world with a bit of apprehension.

Yes, I do expect people to believe that I would do that. I'm not speed junkie, I don't crave to be the fastest and I certainly don't need all that power at the moment whilst I'm still young and inexperienced. Before people start spouting stuff about the fact that they started off on a huge bike and they're fine, that's you and I'm me.

I don't know how I've offended you with my clearly blasphemous opinions but I'm sorry to have caused such offense. Clearly my lack of judgement in not wanting enough power is my downfall.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

He's a new rider, I had all sorts of good intentions before I started riding too :

Christ, at 17 I had a 6 year old 750 Suzuki that handled like a pregnant camel on roller skates and had brakes that were as effective as putting my foot in the spokes, but it did 125 on the clock so I was happy. As soon as I could I was back on an RD400 because even though it only did 115 it went round corners and could stop this side of next week. I soon tuned the nuts off that one though

[yorkie_chris]

I still think you would try it full power and realise it's not that scary. It isn't. fact you're thinking about it like you are shows you could handle whatever.

Personally I think 33bhp just prevents people killing themselves in first week, or dropping it on car park of dealership like this guy

I'm 30 years old, CBT passed Feb 2009, passed my restricted test in October 2009, and slowly working my way through my 2 year countdown.

I figured I would save money and be on a bike quicker going the restricted route, as I had my own 125 at the time, also time off work and lack of cash prevented me from doing DAS. Didn't really save much money as I had to pay to get the bike restricted anyway.

IMO, my current 33bhp bike can quite happily exceed the speed limits so I don't see it as a big deal...