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Old 12-10-10, 09:34 AM   #21
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Yeah, V twins have some interesting characteristics. However, I think that whilst I only have a single bike, it will remain an IL4. Just need to justify 150 more cc.

The thing is you can have a gutless il4, or a ferkin hell il4. the same with V twins, you have the gutless SV650 70ish BHP or 130bhp sp2
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Old 12-10-10, 09:37 AM   #22
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What's wrong with saying powerband???? The powerband is at the top of the rev range??? Me confuzzled!
A VERY informative article on Powerbands.

http://www.planetash.net/gos/powerbands.html
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Old 12-10-10, 09:40 AM   #23
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That is awesome SK! I especially like the script about a pink powerband!
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Interesting comment that always comes up about the instant shove you get with twins - cos it doesn't always apply so much higher up the rev range, e.g. you could say that when comparing the SV at 3k, but comparing it at 8k...hmm, well it would be blown away by the 'instant shove' of my 750 (or my 600) at 8k.

I don't think either are more difficult to ride/ride well, just that they need different styles.
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Old 12-10-10, 10:47 AM   #25
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Interesting comment that always comes up about the instant shove you get with twins - cos it doesn't always apply so much higher up the rev range, e.g. you could say that when comparing the SV at 3k, but comparing it at 8k...hmm, well it would be blown away by the 'instant shove' of my 750 (or my 600) at 8k.
You miss the point, if both were burbling along at 3k then you would need to drop a gear or two to get your 600 up to 8k. It's no longer instant shove.
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Old 12-10-10, 10:55 AM   #26
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You miss the point, if both were burbling along at 3k then you would need to drop a gear or two to get your 600 up to 8k. It's no longer instant shove.
No that's exactly my point, what if you were hammering it along at 8k - the twin can't compete (when compared to an IL4). It's no longer instant shove (for the twin).
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I realise I may not have been clear btw - I am talking about *both* bikes being at 8k.
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Old 12-10-10, 11:20 AM   #28
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You miss the point, if both were burbling along at 3k then you would need to drop a gear or two to get your 600 up to 8k. It's no longer instant shove.
Except on the IL4 you might well be burbling along at 5 or 6k. 6k feels like low revs in the same way as 3k might on the SV.
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Old 12-10-10, 11:27 AM   #29
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I don't think either are more difficult to ride/ride well, just that they need different styles.
I have found riding in wet/icy/snow I prefer the soft delivery low down (ie not cutting about like Rossi) of a il4 compared to a twin.
Better throttle and clutch control required on a twin than a 4, harder to ride.

Cutting about like Rossi on a twin you need to know what you are doing if attempting to drop through the gears. I have never had a 4 try to lock up on me. Harder to ride well.
Slipper clutches/back-torque limiters are making it easier for us mechanically unsymapthetic dullards, but they make feck all difference in the slippy shicht.

I think you find out a lot about your bikes "character" in not dry conditions. Trying to be safe n' smooth, y'kna?
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Old 12-10-10, 12:21 PM   #30
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I realise I may not have been clear btw - I am talking about *both* bikes being at 8k.
Quite a lot of us don't particularly like being at those sorts of revs. It's one of the reasons I chose a v-twin. The howl of a short stroke middle weight IL4 just doesn't do it for me.
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