Just How Do You get your knee down

[flymo]

Originally Posted by lukemillar

Some very odd advice in this thread! I see people get their knee down all the time in a whole manner of shapes and styles. The important thing is not to think about getting you knee down, but rather practice good body positioning. If you do that and carry enough lean angle, then you will find your knee touches the tarmac without thinking about it. I posted this guide from another forum a while back and hope you find it useful!

http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=32

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I raced at a decent pace for over a year without putting a knee on the floor. Concentrate on the lap times, not your knee sliders.

[mister c]

This lad won the Triumph Triple Challenge by 60 points last year, he is a friend of my sons & as you can see, you dont need a knee on the deck to be quick. As Luke & Flymo say, work on lap times. I'm not fast by any stretch of the imagination & can drag my knee, it's technique, not speed

Awesome shot of the lad on the Trumpet! Thought the question was how do you get your knee down tho?

[mister c]

Originally Posted by Bigmitch

Awesome shot of the lad on the Trumpet! Thought the question was how do you get your knee down tho?

Jay is one heck of a racer (his dad's bloody fast as well lol).
The 1st post says that they want to go faster round corners & the aim Isn't to get their knee down.

Inreresting. How does he save the front or rear without his knee on the deck?

I answered the "just how do you get your knee down" part of "Just how do you get your knee down".

I did it in the simplest terms possible because I find (from being a professional instructor for a decade) that explaining things in the simplest terms possible is the best way. If the pupil wants more depth and understanding they will ask for it. Then you give it. Never overload the pupil. The pupil will, very quickly, let you know their capacity and speed of learning.


"Going faster" is an entirely different thread, conversation, agrument, diagreement, debate and shouting match

Luke, Some of that article is very good. Some of it is utter twaddle

C

[flymo]

Originally Posted by Berlin

Inreresting. How does he save the front or rear without his knee on the deck?

I answered the "just how do you get your knee down" part of "Just how do you get your knee down".

I did it in the simplest terms possible because I find (from being a professional instructor for a decade) that explaining things in the simplest terms possible is the best way. If the pupil wants more depth and understanding they will ask for it. Then you give it. Never overload the pupil. The pupil will, very quickly, let you know their capacity and speed of learning.


"Going faster" is an entirely different thread, conversation, agrument, diagreement, debate and shouting match

C

whereas we went for answering this bit "which can lead to getting your knee down, which isnt really my aim, but to get faster in corners".

On the faster corners I started by not using my knee, then I gained confidence and used my knee alot which gave me more confidence, which then allowed me to carry mucho speed without my knee hanging out. Depends on the corner really, I think it tended to be the slower corners where I used my knee down, didnt bother on the fast ones just tucked in and gave it the berries.

Saving the front, stopping rear slides....yeah right , what do you think this is motogp?

Just being "Controvertial

I've saved at least one slide with my knee in every race this year. On the practice days a lot more. Even saved a double wheel slide into turn 1 at Croft this year on the 600. I thought is was something we (racers) all did. I didn't realise I was unusual (well, not in that way anyway )

In faster corners you don't want your knee down (or even out) as it just acts as a big air brake.

C

[flymo]

Yeah, I would say you are definately 'different' C

Ah well fair in nuff, I found it all starts with a desperate need to get the knee down, then as you get faster you end up trying to keep the thing off the deck and out of the way! I had a bit of a simular moment couple of weeks ago Berlin, when the front started to push while my knee was down, managed to push it back up with my knee but it was only instinct and panic rather than skill on my part lol!

Well guys lots of advice and debate for which i genuinly thank you all

I have spent most of my biking life, to long to declare publicly, on litre sports bike or above, so about this time in 2009 i decided to go racing, i am quick on the road, and fairly quick on the track, i started the season on a 2008 R1 and soon realised in racing terms i was scarely slow, dangerous almost to other racers, even with my novice vest on, so with a great deal of debate and advice from the paddock, i sold the R1 and went for what everyone told me was a great learner class the Mini Twin

The philosophy of riding a Mini Twin as apposed to a sports bike is clearly different, and i must say the bike you see me on in this thread above is only the second time out on it, but i am quicker on that around Mallory Park than i was ever on my R1 or the Hayabusa i have taken round there a few times.

on the R1 i relied on the shear power of the bike, streetstock spec, on the minitwin i need to have a greater skill, and confidence to be competitive, so what questions do i ask.

I suppose my question should be how do you get quick around the track, but that has so many conitations of answers, my first answer i suppose is get to know the bike, what it can and cant do, and basically gel with the bike, part of tha gelling process is to get comfortable on the bike and body position is a step towards that

then comes all the other bits, like braking points, if any, gearing, what gear, truning points, counter steering and so on and on and on

so here's the real question, how do you get quick on a track riding a mini twin?

Joanne


P.S. all answers slow and simple please, Ta

P.P.S Racing is brilliant, but you know that