Anyone watching coppers?

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Was also surprised to see that it wasn't the EDL who were causing the most problems, actually thought they behaved pretty well and noted it was only sort of BNP and National Front that were causing problems within that side.

I thought that UAF lot were a bunch of *****s to be honest, they were there to protest against the EDL, but they arrived way before the EDL and were causing trouble and shouting stuff at the police before the group they were protesting against had even showed up. Also love the way they were questioning the validity of the police being there when they would have blatantly been battered by the other lot had the police not been in the middle.

[Mr Speirs]

I thought the EDL were better behaved than the UAF in that programme. The arrest count shows that too. An EDL few seemed to be merely showing agression and even fewer were actually commiting offences.

On the subject of commiting 'offences' it seemed like most people that were actually arrested were right at the front of the line of police. That's not to say they were instigating anything though they were just stood parallel to the police. It is then the people behind these people that push the entire crowd forward. There was even a part where an Officer had spotted a group of instigators 5 odd rows back who were pushing and then it all kicked off. People at the front where pushed from behind and then from the front by the police. Physical contact is going to be made and in my opinion I would say most of it was by people trying to push themselves away from the wild flailing arms of the riot police. Police seemed to get angry at just the people right in front of them.

My sister is a police officer and there are Police programmes I have seen that I take a completely different view from her. From my conversations during the shows with her she'll see assertiveness where I will see indifference.

I understand that police need to be assertive to fulfil parts of their job role however unfortunately I think there maybe some blurring between times it is required fully and times it is required sparingly.

By contrast there have been programmes that I'm screaming at the TV cos the police officer hasn't knocked the cheeky **** who has commited a crime and then starts acting like an **** and talking down to the Police, so it's swings and roundabouts really and it's all controlled by the editing of these programmes.

I am not a police hater or whatever. But I do watch some of these programmes and see officers making arrests for mad petty things (like a man ringing a buzzer at the police station because after being punched in the face none could take a statement from him for an hour) yet there was enough resources to arrest him book him into cells and keep him there overnight.
There was another where there was an airshow on. There was a temporary ban in the town where consumption of alcohol or open containers of alchohol were not permitted. The policewoman even described the guidelines to the camera. Next minute shes running out the car and acosted some teenagers who have just walked out of a supermarket with a crate of stella (unopened). She then confiscates the crate from the guy holding it. He actually knows his stuff and is aware of the ban and protests saying that it was unopened, it was for a party at his house for that night and confiscating it was unlawful and refused to let go of the crate.
He was duly arrested (Section 5 Public Order).
As soon as they got back to the Station the custody officer let the guy go with his beer and he agreed it was clearly unlawful and didn't fall under the guidelines of the temporary ban.
I was actually quite fuming at that one as he got arrested for (Section 5 public order) for not letting go of his beer!!

Originally Posted by specialone

but you do get a few macho ones with small penises that have to be king d*ck while at work.

Hey man thats you just blown my cover-what am i gonna do now???

[MisterTommyH]

Did I grow up in a different world to some of you?

If a copper asks/tells you to do something, you do it. You don't ask why and you don't refuse.

Even if you think they're wrong they will find some piece of legislation to back it up. But that's not why you do what they say - you do it because they're the police.

[tigersaw]

I would have redirected them to a field and let them beat the pap out of each other.

We watched this last night, I'd not seen it before and I was a tad appalled at some of the attitudes of the police on there. Some of the fellas certainly gave the impression they loved the atmosphere of the protests and were out to show the troublemakers a good time One went to say (when referring to members of the EDL) that they "thrived" on events like this, I would go so far as to say it works on both sides, clearly some of those coppers did too...

I was surprised also how seemingly docile the EDL were in comparison to the UAF, clearly hadn't had enough to drink! Although I say docile, they were up until that group of Asians turned up...I can't remember if they were all Asians now or not so don't jump down my throat now for stereotyping...

As Lily said, this programme gives a much more seemingly realistic perspective on policing, least we hear what the cops in question really think.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Tommy H

If a copper asks/tells you to do something, you do it. You don't ask why and you don't refuse.

That ONLY works in a place where the police were seen indisputedly as the upholders of law and order.

Where they are seen as hamfistedly harassing people under "anti-terror" laws for nowt, or battering protesters like the thugs they're meant to be arresting then you can see people will want to create as much obstruction to the police as they can.

Originally Posted by tigersaw

I would have redirected them to a field and let them beat the pap out of each other.

+1, I'd have watched, would have been ace.

Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris

We watched this last night, I'd not seen it before and I was a tad appalled at some of the attitudes of the police on there. Some of the fellas certainly gave the impression they loved the atmosphere of the protests and were out to show the troublemakers a good time One went to say (when referring to members of the EDL) that they "thrived" on events like this, I would go so far as to say it works on both sides, clearly some of those coppers did too...

I was surprised also how seemingly docile the EDL were in comparison to the UAF, clearly hadn't had enough to drink! Although I say docile, they were up until that group of Asians turned up...I can't remember if they were all Asians now or not so don't jump down my throat now for stereotyping...

Methinks a lot of the EDL are "out of work" football hooligans as well as just normal blokes who are p*ssed off at the state of towns around here.
Which means they're probably quite used to police crowd control tactics and know how much they can get away with.

The UAF and all the associated ANL idiots obviously didn't and instead made themselves look a bit silly.


Some of the EDL were only shouting at the 'stanis who were shouting at them anyway, that is docile!

Originally Posted by husky03

Hey man thats you just blown my cover-what am i gonna do now???

Lol, it wasnt aimed at you mate honest

Stick a man in a 40 tonne truck and he thinks he's unstoppable and everyone else has to get out of the way

Stick a man in a Subaru and he thinks he's the fastest thing on four wheels

Stick a man in a traffic wardens hat, and he'll turn into an ar4ehole

Stick a man in a police uniform, give him some authority, a baton, and an excuse to legally use it...

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Stick a man in a police uniform, give him some authority, a baton, and an excuse to legally use it...

you mad?-you should see the paperwork i need to fill in if i use my magic stick