speed limit to go up.....theres a first!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

Yes yes yes yes yes yes where do I sign for regular re-testing. I would happily pay the test fee's if it mean the moron's who magically gained a driving licence we weeded out as a result of regular re-testing, and if I happened to fail a retest then atleast attention has been brought to my poor driving..

The only people who agree with me & bibio on regular retesting are the ones who are happy to have their driving judged more than once, and the ones who moan seem to say "well I ain't crashed yet" - if you're so confident that you don't need testing because you're so good, why not just go and pass the retest - you know you're good enough

I'm for the retesting but against the expense. It's expensive enough trying to do any bloody thing without another rip off.

I'd be for a course or something provided by private firms, maybe something like 2 or 3 hours worth of pass-plus style thing. I'd set the pass standard fairly low, more a course than a test, but high enough that any proper mongs would need some further training to brush up.

Not retesting, re assessing is what I'm in favour of, maybe make it linked to insurance ?

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

Yes yes yes yes yes yes where do I sign for regular re-testing. I would happily pay the test fee's if it means the moron's who some magically gained a driving licence were weeded out as a result of regular re-testing, and if I happened to fail a retest then atleast attention has been brought to my poor driving..

The only people who agree with me & bibio on regular retesting are the ones who are happy to have their driving judged more than once, and the ones who moan seem to say "well I ain't crashed yet" - if you're so confident that you don't need testing because you're so good, why not just go and pass the retest - you know you're good enough

These morons passed first time whats stopping them passing again? Better just having stricter penalties if caught driving dangerously, rather than put everyone through the stress of being examined. Completely against it.

A better option IMO is regular driver training, like the various courses some of you do here.

Originally Posted by specialone

Not retesting, re assessing is what I'm in favour of, maybe make it linked to insurance ?

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

France is 110 in the wet and 130 in the dry.

That is KPH though.

I think a lot of bad driving is down to lack of knowledge. Old biddies sitting in the middle lane probably don't know any better (or are aware of the problems they cause) and probably do it for a different reason than the salesman in the 3 series up everyone's back side.

Re-testing/training would help, especially teaching drivers about lane discipline, the legalities of filtering, use of box junctions, indication, spacing, how to turn off fog lights! etc.

It's bad driving not speeding that causes most accidents

[yorkie_chris]

130kph is 80mph

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

130kph is 80mph

yeah, long day

[Bibio]

the standard of being able to drive in this country is shocking. why?

well my wife according to 'those that be' is capable of driving a 'suitably adapted vehicle' which put bluntly is an adapted car.

now according to them they are going to let a half paralysed person that suffers from dysphasia (google it) as she had part of her brain removed. out on the open roads in charge of a vehicle by herself. she had a full uk driving licence before the haemorrhage and because of this she does not need to pass a full driving test the assessment was all she needed.

so what does that say about driving standards in the uk?

One dangerous side effect of raising the speed limit on motorways, is that you will still have the knuckle draggers that currently join motorways at 45mph on a clear day with traffic moving at 70mph
Imagine a 100mph limit with these idiots around.

Unless they just increase the limit in the outer lanes?

I don't think raising the limit will necessarily reduce speeding, people in foreign countries with higher limits don't speed less, they just drive faster than the speeders do here. Same in countries with the same limits but less enforcement.

Enforcement is the only thing that will reduce speeding, as seen in France in the last ten years where the 100mph which was the norm has now dropped considerably closer to the 80mph limit.

An 80mph limit here, with no change in enforcement, will see your salesman in the 3 series doing 100mph, instead of the 90mph he does now.

The M40, and the Leicestershire section on the M1 from the M69 to the M6/A14, already has lane 3 running at 100mph on a regular basis, due to lack of enforcement.