Just had my 1st off !!!!!

[yorkie_chris]

#CRUNCH#
...And a streetfighter is born...

Glad it's not too bad.

Sorry to hear it, at least they honoured the 'let's not involve insurance' thing.

Glad your OK, bikes fix.

Well done on the payout, you must have the gift of the gab there!

Originally Posted by SIII

I know i was 100% liable but she was 100% her fault for not giving other road users a bloody clue what she was up to!

From your description it was 100% your fault whichever way you look at it. Whether she indicated or not you are responsible for being able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear. How do you know her indicator bulb didn't blow when she put them on, or at anytime in the last week (hands up all those who walk round the car checking indicators every day before driving away?) and the front was flashing at double the speed? You need to be able to account for that. You were obviously close because she said she aborted her right turn, because she thought you were going to overtake. As a biker I'd just be happy that she knew I was there, and she had thought about the possible consequences of a right turn if you did try to overtake her. Most car drivers don't put that much thought or observation into their driving.

Sorry to be a bit harsh, but if you talk like an accident is 100% another parties fault, when it's not, then you can't learn from the accident and prevent it from happening again. To learn from it, first you need to admit to yourself what actually happened and realise what you did wrong. (Obviously don't admit to anything at the roadside, but you need to admit it to yourself)

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Glad your OK, bikes fix.

Well done on the payout, you must have the gift of the gab there!



From your description it was 100% your fault whichever way you look at it. Whether she indicated or not you are responsible for being able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear. How do you know her indicator bulb didn't blow when she put them on, and the front was flashing at double the speed? You need to be able to account for that. You were obviously close because she said she aborted her right turn, because she thought you were going to overtake. As a biker I'd just be happy that she knew I was there, and she had thought about the possible consequences of a right turn if you did try to overtake her. Most car drivers don't put that much thought or observation into their driving.

Sorry to be a bit harsh, but if you talk like an accident is 100% another parties fault, when it's not, then you can't learn from the accident and prevent it from happening again. To learn from it, first you need to admit to yourself what actually happened and realise what you did wrong. (Obviously don't admit to anything at the roadside, but you need to admit it to yourself afterwards)

+10000 (if that is possible...?)

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

How do you know her indicator bulb didn't blow when she put them on, or at anytime in the last week (hands up all those who walk round the car checking indicators every day before driving away?)

I am not disagreeing in any way with what you're saying, I just realized while reading it that most cars you'll see at least half your indicators get 'tested' when you push the unlock button on your key in order to get in

Originally Posted by metalangel

I am not disagreeing in any way with what you're saying, I just realized while reading it that most cars you'll see at least half your indicators get 'tested' when you push the unlock button on your key in order to get in

Nice observation

The amount of blown bulbs on the road is ridiculous though, another consequence of replacing police cars with speed cameras. Also the number of folk driving along with an indicator on when it shouldn't be. My driving instructor asked me all those years ago what a flashing indicator meant. When I told him, he replied "No! It means that the bulb is working!"

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Nice observation

The amount of blown bulbs on the road is ridiculous though, another consequence of replacing police cars with speed cameras. Also the number of folk driving along with an indicator on when it shouldn't be. My driving instructor asked me all those years ago what a flashing indicator meant. When I told him, he replied "No! It means that the bulb is working!"

My old Volvo had a testing circuit thingy. There was a test light on the dashboard when you started the engine, and the first time you pushed the brake (thus illuminating the tail lights) it would go out... unless a bulb had blown. It drives me nuts when you're behind someone where only their CHMSL (Centre high Mount Stop Lamp... the third brake light) is working.

[SIII]

I totally agree it was my Fault. I should have been far enough back to stop. I forgot one of my own golden rules on the bike - All car drivers are trying to kill you!

Why he offered to pay out I have no idea, i was a bit shell shocked after the off, and was pretty much resigned to just havin to pay out myself.

Brake lever ordered _ £42 !!!! the robbin gits, have drilled and put a bolt in so I can use the bike next week.

Fairing mounts bent back, exhaust sanded down and looks ok.

Have 'coloured' fairing in with permanent marker! just to hide white scratches till I can replace or paint.

If any body want to book me - Proffesional Stoppy King - my fee is £250 for a 30 second show.

Also, if one bulb goes on indys, the flasher relay flashes faster to let you know.

Glad to hear you came away ok, I've seen a friend come off far worse and end up with his hips pinned together.

A little scare now and again helps keep us on our toes