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Old 16-09-11, 02:56 PM   #21
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You'll learn that too, that what you INTEND a thread to be very seldom works out to be what it actually becomes.
Its crazy, i post something yet someone feels the need to jump in and just spread misery. Why cant people just be happy? I see threads all he time with no interest to myself but i just don't bother to read them.

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Old 16-09-11, 03:04 PM   #22
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Its crazy, i post something yet someone feels the need to jump in and just spread misery. Why cant people just be happy? I see threads all he time with no interest to myself but i just don't bother to read them.
You posted looking for comments on your purchase.

I am pretty sure that any "Networking Geeks" who were doing the job when that box was first released (12 years ago) reacted the same way - with a great big LOL.

Again speaking for the others, we all did what you did, all were that keen, have all had it beaten out of us as work rarely allows you to do the exciting, cool stuff you read about in the Operating System manual, or explore the more exciting paths and configurations, so you get bored, the shine wears off and you wonder why your spare room looks like a store-room for the Science Museum.

Frankly you bought a clunker of an impractical (for the home) machine, that will turn your electricity meter into a cooling fan as it drinks the juice, will be noisy as hell. Its not like I haven't done the same, even in the near past - Ask Sudoxe about how hard I tried to punt a rather large and noisy Sun Server at him (hint I only powered it up once and after that it became a coffee table until I found someone that actually had a use for it, and that was in the last couple of years.

Chill, you are experiencing the ribbing that the more experienced give out to the less experienced, partly its jealousy (not at the kit, but the levels of "give an ar*e" that you still have.
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Old 16-09-11, 03:06 PM   #23
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Not having a go.

When I was setting up networks, we were at the limits of the then available technology and infrastructure. What we wanted didn't exist.

For instance I was tasked with establishing data/voice to a site in China. It ended in one of our guys sitting in the ministry of post and telecomunications in Beijing to get us permission to establish the first privately owned satellite earth station in China. Now you would simply phone your local telecoms co and ask for an X25, or IP over a carriers MPLS infrastucture etc.

When I first got into networking I was writing device drivers for simple file sharing over a star lan over RF connections that pre dated CSMA/CD etc. We knew what we wanted to do, but the technology wasn't there. That is what I mean by the hard work.

Today, you have an interconnected world. It is expected devices will talk to each other, it used to be difficult to get two different suppliers VPN equipment to communicate as all would have subtle differences in their implementation of standards.
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Old 16-09-11, 03:08 PM   #24
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I don't know what your layout is like, but my garage gets hot enough in the summer to trip the temperature alarm on most kit. The stuff that doesn't trip becomes seriously noisy as the fans speed up to max rpm.

On the plus side, your garage will be frost free over the winter.

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Old 16-09-11, 03:12 PM   #25
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Not having a go.

When I was setting up networks, we were at the limits of the then available technology and infrastructure. What we wanted didn't exist.

For instance I was tasked with establishing data/voice to a site in China. It ended in one of our guys sitting in the ministry of post and telecomunications in Beijing to get us permission to establish the first privately owned satellite earth station in China. Now you would simply phone your local telecoms co and ask for an X25, or IP over a carriers MPLS infrastucture etc.

When I first got into networking I was writing device drivers for simple file sharing over a star lan over RF connections that pre dated CSMA/CD etc. We knew what we wanted to do, but the technology wasn't there. That is what I mean by the hard work.

Today, you have an interconnected world. It is expected devices will talk to each other, it used to be difficult to get two different suppliers VPN equipment to communicate as all would have subtle differences in their implementation of standards.
I get what your saying, I know I have purchased a device which is practically stupid to run at home but hey im young, no doubt in 20 years ill look back and think WTF was i thinking.

To be fair I didn't win it on purpose, I just got lucky no one else bid on it. I put a low maximum bid in and expected to be outbid straight away
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What is it, and what does it do?
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A couple of years ago I decided to get rid of my last (there were more...) monster Compaq server from my loft 'data center'. I looked around on ebay and decided I couldnt be ar$ed selling just to get a fiver if I was lucky.

I dropped it on the skip we had at the time as we were renovating. Each time the skip guy turned up he would take the server off the top and take the skip away. Took me ages to get rid of that bloody thing. Since then VMWare has saved me many decibels and kWh. Embrace virtualisation, it'll save you a packet and you'll learn just as much.
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A couple of years ago I decided to get rid of my last (there were more...) monster Compaq server from my loft 'data center'. I looked around on ebay and decided I couldnt be ar$ed selling just to get a fiver if I was lucky.

I dropped it on the skip we had at the time as we were renovating. Each time the skip guy turned up he would take the server off the top and take the skip away. Took me ages to get rid of that bloody thing. Since then VMWare has saved me many decibels and kWh. Embrace virtualisation, it'll save you a packet and you'll learn just as much.
I do use virutlisation for servers,

Using virtual servers is completely different from a network emulator
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I do use virutlisation for servers,

Using virtual servers is completely different from a network emulator

yeah, I know that. The concept of virtualisation is exactly the same though.
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I do use virutlisation for servers,

Using virtual servers is completely different from a network emulator
Not if the emulator is good enough to get people through CCIP...
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