Self defence - the best legal methods?

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by pete m

err , avoid truoble, learn to defend yourself with your fists etc etc...

youre walking along one fine day, a car screeches to a halt ...someoine gets out, he's 6ft 2in , weighs about 15st, hands the size of a grapefruit...

"oi, you c****** , you cut me up down there two weeks ago, on that bike of yours , you >>>? , next time is see you i might just do something nasty to you etc etc "

so thanks for all your wise words, but sometimes trouble comes and finds you....

so the up shot so far, & my police bud just said i must report it , nothi else to do, is stcick your chest out, hold yopur head up, train night n day so your Bruce Lee inside and Bruce Forsyth outside....

i need a solution people ....

That situation wouldn't make me want to tool up, 1 it could very well be an empty threat,2. IF they're likely to overpower you why bring a weapon into the mix, just try defuse the situation and see how it pans out.
Having seen a few too many knives and other weapons a bit too close up,mostly wielded by little ****s is the only thing that's made me consider it ...

Learn Krav Maga or Karap or something similar...All about self-defense and living to fight another day. None of this kick him while he's down stuff, quick disarms then scarper off home for tea and medals...

Dipper - agreed - and i like the solution - dirty great pepper pot , loosen the fast way in so you can throw it ....

but what gets me about this, is no-one has a proper solution to the problem ...i can see why people dont want everyone walking around with weapons etc for self defence , but i would feel a lot better if i could go down the local cop shop and say "look ive been threatened , i want to borrow / buy a panic alarm / pepper spray for a few weeks, if i use it on anyone else , do me, but if said giant knuckle dragger comes at me , i will be ready "....

[keith_d]

One of my school friends used to work on the BT vans and went into some pretty rough areas. They used to have a pickaxe handle tucked behind the drivers seat. There was a detached pickaxe head lying around in the van in case they were asked, "It fell apart last week and I've not been able to fix it constable". It never got fixed in all the years he was on the van, and having the gaffer come out with a pickaxe handle made most people think twice about giving the lad any trouble.

On a more practical note there are two things to take along. A positive attitude and the willingness to get stuck in. Probably the best things to keep trouble from happening around you.

Originally Posted by timwilky

.... So it is always worthwhile if the odds are not overwhelming get in first. go berserk.

Exactly. The best form of defence is offence, so attack or be attacked, it's your choice.

Question is , if the thread had been "Best means of self defence - legal or illegal " - would we have had a different discussion

Originally Posted by pete m

Question is , if the thread had been "Best means of self defence - legal or illegal " - would we have had a different discussion

Yes. (What do I win?)

[hindle8907]

All those preaching "avoid trouble in the first place" its just not as simple as that . . . . Trouble can find you no matter who you are or where you come from.
I was coming out of my parents house last summer after a lovey family meal with my partner we was minding our own business making our way across to the car to go home, we both got in the car and my mum was putting some bags in the boot when a strange character walks up long side the car and lay his head in his arms and lent on the bonnet of the car.
I said to my mum through the window to just go inside after she finished in the boot.
We couldn't go anywhere with him on the bonnet as there was car was parked behind us so we lock the doors and my partner beeps the horn a few times and we get no response from the lad.
So I get out and said politely "mate your on the car and need to get up" I got no reply so I then tried to help him up when all of a sudden he bounces up and looks right into my eyes with pure aggression, he was high on something I could tell by the size of his pupils.
I step back and he comes charging at me, With my partner in the car I just seen red and dropped the ****.
He fell to the floor a few of the neighbors must of seen what had happened and eddie a big fella from over the way came running out with a mate of his.
The lad got up and seen that there was now three of us and starts mouthing off while walking back " next time i see you your dead ect ect ect" and off he went on his way.
I thanked the guys and a little bit shaken up went to make sure my mum was Ok and we waited a few minutes before going on our way.

What would I have done if this lad had a knife I had no where to go, I wasn't going to run off and leave my partner near this nutter.
Its quite an eye opener when something like this happens to you and when your in the situation your self it raises many questions in your head.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by hindle8907

All those preaching "avoid trouble in the first place" its just not as simple as that . . . . Trouble can find you no matter who you are or where you come from.

I know this - I had 3 youths try and mug me a few years back - all they took away from it was pain.

The point I am making is that it only went as far as punches, if I had pulled a weapon of any kind then who knows where it would have gone.

Would I have used it? Stabbed/Hit one of them, If I had, would I have killed them? Would I then have had to deal with retribution from his family/friends if I had? Would I have ended up in prison?

My point is keep the level of violence, if something develops that way, to a minimum - and if thats at threats, well Sticks and Stones...

[hindle8907]

Yeah I agree with all you just said mate, its just worrying that there are nutters about like in my case who have no motive and wouldn't think twice about pulling a knife out and using it.
And we have to try and protect our self's and loves ones with bare hands.
The world is a messed up place.