Public Pay to be brought in line with Private

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by maviczap

Aye, one thing Maggie didn't do was pick a fight with the Police, which this Govenment has.

In the blue corner 'The Home Secretary' in the red coner 'PC lets be avinya'

That is very true.They really do want to wind the polis up dont they?Now is that political naivity or are they so confident that they will take on any comers?(Except the bankers and top rate tax payers perhaps?)

Originally Posted by maviczap

No. Public sector workers AFAIK get paid London weighting (inner & outer) which is an extra allowance for working in London. Covers transport costs to get into the smoke etc. That's over and above the national rate of pay

WRONG! Love the way this place is so narrow minded sometimes based on limited facts.

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by Davies

WRONG! Love the way this place is so narrow minded sometimes based on limited facts.

How come I'm wrong?

When I transferred to London, I got London weighting added to my basic salary, when I returned it was taken off.

If you're going to make a comment back it up with your own case.

This is my knowledge & experience, it yours is different, please enlighten us

Typical of this government. Get us average Joes fighting amongst ourselves while they line the pockets of the rich.

In my view public sector terms and conditions should be market leaders that the private sector aspire to.

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[timwilky]

I earn a reasonable salary and live in a lower cost region. Where I live is my choice and does have its downside. I paid my mortgage off 10 years ago. So if my employers were to say off you go to work from our offices in xyz. There is little chance I would be able to buy equivalent housing for what I was able to sell at. This to me is the issue with regional variations. I have had colleagues sell their london/south east semis and buy 5 bedroom detached when they locate up here. Accepting that they could never afford to return.

Perhaps by scrapping a single wage structure, the true cost of a region would be better reflected. Lowering in low cost areas would mean that the saving could be redirected to the higher cost making salaries better reflect local cost.

But the danger is that this would escalate the north south divide etc.


My colleagues based in Rugby would always complain they were paid less than the Manchester staff. Manchester having to pay more to attract engineers from other businesses where in Rugby there were fewer choices of employers. Where did they close. Yes Manchester

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by timwilky

I earn a reasonable salary and live in a lower cost region. Where I live is my choice and does have its downside. I paid my mortgage off 10 years ago. So if my employers were to say off you go to work from our offices in xyz. There is little chance I would be able to buy equivalent housing for what I was able to sell at. This to me is the issue with regional variations. I have had colleagues sell their london/south east semis and buy 5 bedroom detached when they locate up here. Accepting that they could never afford to return.

Perhaps by scrapping a single wage structure, the true cost of a region would be better reflected. Lowering in low cost areas would mean that the saving could be redirected to the higher cost making salaries better reflect local cost.

But the danger is that this would escalate the north south divide etc.


My colleagues based in Rugby would always complain they were paid less than the Manchester staff. Manchester having to pay more to attract engineers from other businesses where in Rugby there were fewer choices of employers. Where did they close. Yes Manchester

Which is why London weighting is paid to some public sector staff, so that they can just about afford to live in London. Otherwise they would have trouble filling any public sector jobs, as there was no overtime or shift pay that came with most of these jobs.

One of my mates couldn't afford & didn't want to live in London, so his London weighting paid for his season ticket, but he was seriously going to have to move back to a local office after the train fares went up, until he got another job.

[dizzyblonde]

The way it was worded on the news yesterday, was they were looking to freeze it in poorer areas........now forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't that just another way to make the rich/poor North/South divide even bigger? Looks to me that ******** looking after the economy is only looking after him and his rich chums!
If you freeze pay in poorer areas with all the petrol and other rises people can't afford to live

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

The way it was worded on the news yesterday, was they were looking to freeze it in poorer areas........now forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't that just another way to make the rich/poor North/South divide even bigger? Looks to me that ******** looking after the economy is only looking after him and his rich chums!
If you freeze pay in poorer areas with all the petrol and other rises people can't afford to live

Yes, correct

[punyXpress]

Amazed* at the union guy who said yesterday that public sector should be paid MORE so that when they spent it, the private sector would gain!
What planet is he on?
* No. not really.

[timwilky]

I do believe remuneration packages should be competitive between similar jobs across industries/professions irrespective of public/private sector.

This does not simply mean salary, there is the whole package:- pensions, contract terms/conditions etc.

What could be used as an argument by some is that paying higher than the going rate in poorer areas it gives those a higher disposable income and that can trickle into the local economy. In truth that extra goes to the Japanese car manufacturer or the Spanish hotel operator etc. Therefore the argument should be the reverse. By restricting the ability of those who live in poorer areas to spend outside of the UK we are helping to bring down trade deficits.