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Old 02-04-14, 07:05 AM   #21
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Cannibalism is the obvious solution.
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Old 02-04-14, 08:14 AM   #22
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Are you suggesting that three quarters of fields need to be rested because compared to animals 1 having half the fields rested?

Because even leaving aside that farmers can plant peas to add nitrogen back to fields and make the rest up with fertilising, round here they rarely have more set-aside than is absolutely necessary (read, the amount the government pays them to)
Over farming.
Why do you think there is so much flooding? There's an article on it somewhere, and it includes the government paying handsomely to do so. I'll try digging it out.
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Old 02-04-14, 08:33 AM   #23
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Default Re: 7 portions of fruit and veg a day ...

I love my veg (with the exception of sprouts which were invented by the devil) But eat fruit! No way it gives me severe abdominal pain, burns the back of my throat and guts. yes I will eat the odd bite of an apple or banana. But that has to be it. One bite.

So I guess my quota is going to be 5 a year.
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Old 02-04-14, 08:40 AM   #24
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Over farming.
Why do you think there is so much flooding? There's an article on it somewhere, and it includes the government paying handsomely to do so. I'll try digging it out.
2 reasons depending on the area.

one is more rain than we've had in a long time (combined with the increasing urbanisation of land reducing the availability of drainage).


the second is the lack of clearing of waterways because the government took it over from the farmers when they had money then stopped again when they didn't but the farmers never took the job back.


Crops VS Animals is a simple energy equation that can only balance if you find an animal that is 100% energy efficient and can't ever fall solidly on the side of animals.

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Old 02-04-14, 09:04 AM   #25
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Its been said they are also reducingbthe recomended sugar intake to 5 teaspoons if sugar. While one banana contains 7 teaspoons of natural sugars. Go figure.
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2 reasons depending on the area.

one is more rain than we've had in a long time (combined with the increasing urbanisation of land reducing the availability of drainage).


the second is the lack of clearing of waterways because the government took it over from the farmers when they had money then stopped again when they didn't but the farmers never took the job back.


Crops VS Animals is a simple energy equation that can only balance if you find an animal that is 100% energy efficient and can't ever fall solidly on the side of animals.
Here you go, something to explore my view.
As I said planting green manure would be a good idea, peas and beans are perfect, but fields of phacelia are very pretty as well as useful

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All valid points and i agree it probably plays a large part in the somerset flooding but to me that's a methods issue not a meat vs veg one. Correct methods can result in the same amount of land feeding more people from crops than meat assuming land use is properly redistributed. The real problem in my mind is that currently not all land used for farming would be suitable. A lot of welsh sheep farms for instance, the gradient would be a nightmare for harvesting.
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Old 02-04-14, 10:02 AM   #28
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If you make sure you're only eating vegetarians and vegans, does that not kill all birds with one stone?


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Old 02-04-14, 10:23 AM   #29
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Eat your fruit and juice your veg.



Might not look appetising (unless you're a vampire perhaps?) but in there are

6 carrots
4 sticks of celery
2 beetroot
2 spring onions
1 inch of garlic
2 apples
1 cucumber
1 head of broccoli
2 limes
1 bell pepper
1 handful of sprouts

A lot more than 7 portions i'd say, doesn't taste amazing but it is do-able.
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If drinking that is going to enable me to live to a hundred I think I'd rather live a shorter life and actually enjoy it as that sounds disgusting!
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