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Old 09-05-15, 08:27 AM   #21
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.A Tory win was therefore quite possible and if you add in the lacklutre Labour leader,there you have it.
Im not a Tory,just the way I always saw it going.
I think Labour lost, as soon as Ed beat his brother for the leadership, just on public persona alone.

Clegg suffered the same image problem, as well as being punished for working with Dave & co. Plus the public hadn't forgotten the tuition fees broken promise.

The Tories targeted seats where they were second to the Lib Dems. A shrewd move.

The Tories kept on & on about the deficit left by Labour, some is true, but the world recession was caused by the failure of the sub prime mortgages in the USA, which bit the UK banks arzes. Resulting in the UK economy taking a nose dive.

Gordon Browns deregulation of the banks didn't help here either.

Did the public vote Tory, as Dave & Co have promised the Euro Referendum, so joe public thinks we'll be out of Europe very soon? I'll believe that when I see it.

A Bib says, get a big broom out, as you'll be sweeping your own streets soon. Dave & Co will push on with NHS changes, and I don't believe the £8bn funding will show up, unless its from PFi.

In all my time I've never seen so many homeless folks on the streets and the introduction of food banks, not even in maggie's era.

No care homes for the elderly, no mental health care, fewer Police and private companies running prisons, schools etc etc. Somebody's getting rich out of our taxes. But we can still build nuclear subs, send our soldiers overseas & still give now wealthy countries overseas aid

None of the parties do it for me, only the Liberals had some sort of social conscience it seemed to me
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Old 09-05-15, 09:00 AM   #22
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Back in the day, " Balls out " meant giving it the beans - not any more ( thank goodness )
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Old 09-05-15, 09:34 AM   #23
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The Tories kept on & on about the deficit left by Labour, some is true, but the world recession was caused by the failure of the sub prime mortgages in the USA, which bit the UK banks arzes. Resulting in the UK economy taking a nose dive.
It's 100% true.

Some sort of crash was completely predictable, it always happens, always will. Had labour been prudent in the good times and not kept running a deficit and running up our debt we'd have been in a much better position to mitigate the crash (although due to a few other reasons it's so bad they couldn't have done enough) and softened the blow by running up the debt now. When you go into the bad times already mortgaged up the the eyeballs there's nowhere left to go and the market that runs on confidence has no reason to have any and recovery is long and painful.
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You dont need a lot of people to vote conservative to win ( first past the post and all that) .
The map looks more like a blue rinse in a salon in Eastbourne
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Old 09-05-15, 11:33 AM   #25
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A table displaying the number of seats won by each party, dividing by the total number of votes they received (Votes per Seat)

DUP 23,032
SNP 25,972
SDLP 33,269
Conservatives 34,244
Labour 40,290
Sinn Fein 44,058
UUP 57,467
Plaid Cymru 60,564
Lib Dem 301,986
Green 1,157,613
Ukip 3,881,129
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Old 09-05-15, 11:35 AM   #26
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If the Tories go ahead with the proposed boundary changes, there will be even more blue on that map next time.
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It's 100% true.

Some sort of crash was completely predictable, it always happens, always will. Had labour been prudent in the good times and not kept running a deficit and running up our debt we'd have been in a much better position to mitigate the crash (although due to a few other reasons it's so bad they couldn't have done enough) and softened the blow by running up the debt now. When you go into the bad times already mortgaged up the the eyeballs there's nowhere left to go and the market that runs on confidence has no reason to have any and recovery is long and painful.
The public net debt,that is the national debt as % of GDP,makes interesting reading over the last 100 years.It went up hugely during WW1 and remained high throughout the 1920s,only falling to "modern" levels just before WW2.Then it shot up again and slowly declned throughout the 50s60s and even the 70s.Modern levels have been lower generally than throughout the first half of the 20th century.
But the last Labour government actually maintained slightly lower levels of national debt than the previous Tory one under both Major and Thatcher until the financial crash of 2007/8.Then it rose sharply as they bailed out the banks
Im no apologist for Blair and Brown,but some of the current governments propaganda about them has been less than honest,if very effective.
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But the last Labour government actually maintained slightly lower levels of national debt than the previous Tory one under both Major and Thatcher until the financial crash of 2007/8.Then it rose sharply as they bailed out the banks
Im no apologist for Blair and Brown,but some of the current governments propaganda about them has been less than honest,if very effective.
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if I was still living up north (not down south where the jobs are) I would have vted SNP but ONLY because the Independance issue has been settled, if it had been a 'vote us in and get independance too' then i really do think that there would be far fewer seat won by SNP, that aside, i really hope the SNP idea of a blanket 40MPH limit in Scotland outside of motorways is readily tossed in the bin, if not kiss goodbye to half the tourisim!
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I distinctly remember commuting up the A9 between Edinburgh & Perth. A lovely modern dual carriageway and virtually no traffic coming and going. I could cruise at 85 in perfect safety up that road (in a cage). It's absolutely ludicrous to impose a 40mph limit on roads like that.
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