NIP - The Usual Then

Originally Posted by keithd

car on this occassion. they were my first points.....ah the memories of a clean license....

Bit harsh then, the police do have a tendency to do a bike over a car if all 3 are doing the same excessive speed.

the thing that urks me more than most is i have used that road thousands of time... i kno wwhere all the spped camera sections are and for that reason i never do more than about 80 in any partcicular part,

except this time..where other things n my mind and a lack of concentration on my speedo got me done..

i usually apply the dont go faster than any thing else on the road rule too... cept again, this time i was making progress and just for got to look at the speedo.... ironic really that i was paying attention to the road...

Originally Posted by keithd

sorry, thats pants. i was behind 2 other cars going quicker than me and i was the one pulled over.

It doesn't work if the cars going faster than you are *police cars* though! Silly...

[jambo]

I have voted "Yes and it hasn't slowed me down" but that's not stricly true. I'm more paranoid and observant than I was, and I don't go quite as fast as I used to in town, but I still go way in excess of the speed limit fairly regularly, I've just become more paranoid about being nicked!

I havent been done, been flashed many times, but only from the front, with compulsory finger raised. I dont speed round town or round schools etc, main reason cos its dangerous, second cos the birds cant see your bike if you're riding fast! I'll get flashed one day though, its gonna happen.

Originally Posted by 454697819

the thing that urks me more than most is i have used that road thousands of time... i kno wwhere all the spped camera sections are and for that reason i never do more than about 80 in any partcicular part,

except this time..where other things n my mind and a lack of concentration on my speedo got me done..

i usually apply the dont go faster than any thing else on the road rule too... cept again, this time i was making progress and just for got to look at the speedo.... ironic really that i was paying attention to the road...

Funnily enough I emailed Cambridgeshire Camera Partnership about the increase in driver/rider focus on license preservation and speedo watching. The reply was:

Speedometer watching and panic braking only applies to people who are braking the law by exceeding their legal speed limit. Safe legal drivers would not need to "panic brake" as they would already be driving within the speed limit. Drivers should check their speedometer as often as they check their mirrors. The notion that you need to constantly drive round with your eyes on the speedometer is absurd - you can tell from experience and one glance at the speedometer what speed you are travelling at and know if you have sped up/slowed down from that speed. In addition, most peoples' field of vision enables them to see the speedometer needle out of the corner of their eye whilst at the same time concentrating on the road ahead.


1. I don't know about you, but looking at my speedo every 4 seconds (which is the average for checking mirrors) doesn't sound particularly safe.

2. The accuracy speed cameras require us to drive at almost neccesitate panic braking - especially with analogue speedometers. Even if you're doing 34-35 you're going to stick the brakes on.

3. This idiot who replied must have superman style vision. Sit on your bike and look at the road ahead as normal, can you read the speedo to the level of accuracy demanded by a speed camera?

Additionally - he neglects to realise that a lot of vehicles (particularly motorcycles) have digital speedometers which demand a direct look.

When we've got people like this running the show who spout the official line over and over again, is it any wonder the roads are in the state they are?!

Re: the comments in the letter back from Cambs safety partenrship where they say a safe driver would be within the speed limit in any event. I point out the article in this week's MCN where a rider was held to be jointly to blame for an accident where he was within the speed limit and hit by a car coming the other way on the wrong side of the road. The judge reduced damages by 50% as he said the rider should not have been going so quick that he could not take avoiding action....and he was on his OWN side of the road and UNDER the speed limit. Seems a stoopid state of affairs where you can be liable and legal at the same time.

I actually agree with personal liability regardless of the "law" - not this sorry state of affairs we have today where you can sue anyone for hurting your little finger on a slightly protruding nail in a fence.

nope, never, nada, zero, zilch, zip, in my 29 years of driving cars and bikes.

unless you class a parking ticket as an offence. (1 off)

otherwise i have been either very lucky (or as i prefer observant and wise ).

as rich quoted i have now probably tempted fate to deal me a cruel blow

Well I chose No- But one day I will be on friday, looks like I'll have to change that