Naughty black visors.........

Yeah, its an unendorsed offence or something like that. I just blagged a free black visor for my agv lid, they are lke £40 or something! That's what you get for leaving the middle of dinner with your girlfriend to help a mate with a CBR4 who has a flat tyre! Oh how the bollocking is worth it now....

My memory ain't so bad after all............ from the MAG website for 17th August 2004:

"Tinted Trouble

Strongly tinted inserts are to be withdrawn from sale after two leading manufacturers have admitted compromising rider safety – even though they are not actually illegal for road use in the UK. Popular Wholesaler Motrax, and Visionary Ideas have both been prosecuted by Northamptonshire Trading Standards.

Magistrates heard that Trading Standards were alerted after a police investigation into a fatal crash last year, which revealed the rider killed had a Motrax Gold Visor Insert. The insert in question cut light transmission to eight percent with many other visors in the range offered by the two companies reducing light to only four percent. The legal limit for visors themselves in the UK is fifty percent.

According to Motrax they have been selling the inserts in good faith after being advised by Visionary Ideas that the products allowed 50% light emittence as stated on packaging. Both were made to pay fines and costs totalling more than £17,000 and arrangements have been made to recall the products from sale.

The bike press are reporting that Motrax had relied on verbal assurances from Visionary, which had falsely stated on packaging that the insert “cuts out 50 per cent of ambient light”, when in fact it cut out 94 per cent. Motrax has now incorporated new procedures to ensure that goods are tested and results known before marketing, and is now arranging recalls of the product.

The two companies were prosecuted under the General Products Safety Regulations 1994 and the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 because of the wording on the packaging. The fines and costs totalled £17,579. Motrax pleaded guilty to four charges under the General Products Safety Regulations 1994 - £1,500 for each charge. Visionary pleaded guilty to three charges under the General Products Safety Regulations 1994 and one under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 - £2,000 for each charge.The rest was in costs.

A Motrax Spokesman told the press “Although the inserts do not contravene road traffic law and remain legal to use, any customer who has recently bought some, and is unhappy, should return the products with proof of purchase to the dealer from whom they bought them for a full refund.”

Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt

Where's a good place to get one on-line?

I got mine (Arai) from racevisors.co.uk on the recommendation of Billy. It was about £35 and arrived in 3 or 4 days.

I tried to get one from Infinity on Gt Portland St in London, but:
a) they are £50
2) their stock had all been bought up... by a bunch of cops!

Oh, and I always carry my clear one with me.

Cazza

I can recommend racevisors.co.uk - got a black arai - £35

<smug-mode>For me the problem is now nicely solved </smug-mode>

http://www.cabergv2.co.uk/default.asp


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Originally Posted by jonboy

<smug-mode>For me the problem is now nicely solved </smug-mode>

http://www.cabergv2.co.uk/default.asp

What do you think of it? £90 seems pretty cheap for a decent lid. My Shoei Raid is going to need replacing sometime. I was thinking of getting a Raid 2, but might consider one of these if they're any good.

For £90 excellent value, but certainly not perfect:

http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.ph...r=asc&start=45


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Believe it or not...and I suspect you probably won't. But A bike cop I passed today (I hardly ever see any) had a completely tinted out visor. Blacked out. Nothing. Just like the one I was using as I passed him!

It wasn't an insert or a flip down jobbie neither as I turned my head in amazement as I went past him.

Perhaps he had realsied how pap hyperoptik inserts were and just put on the tinted visor as it was extremely bright out today (west coast of scotland).

Anywa....moral of the story is, just wear what you feel is the safest. I wear my tinted one for 90% of the time as I mostly ride during the day, in the summer anyway. If I get pulled over, I'll tell them the story and I genuinely think I'll get let off. It's already happened once, when they moticed my illegal exhaust and visor. I genuinely do feel safer. So there's nothing to fear.

[northwind]

With the weather the way it was up here today, IMO anyone not wearing a dark visor or shades would be a serious danger to themselves and others... Likewise with riding in winter up here with the low morning sun.

The law as it stands is an ass, and won't stop me from using an effective safety device when conditions call for it. Every time I've been stopped by the police for other things, I've had my dark visor on, and it's pretty dark... Looks black from outside. Never had it so much as mentioned. Then again, because I'm not a spanner I don't wear it in low light conditions.

black visors r not a problem. They say for day use only on them and are e marked in some cases. The only time a copper will pull you and fine is if yourt stupid enough to use one at night