"Vision Zero" Threat to biking or MCN scaremongeri

[Viney]

Originally Posted by Carsick

'shrugs' depends how you view it. Multiplication and division have the same precedence so while it's written down on one line you're right. I always make the assumption that division is written as
45
__ which is the same as 45/(1*2)
1*2

in which case the precedence becomes more obvious.

Sod it.

Dont play with me...i watched Jonny Ball's think of a number when i was a kid ok!!! :P

I think that ultimately bikes will indeed be taken off the road but I reckon the time span is more likely 30-40 years than twenty. And if it does happen, well I'm quite sure that bikes will still be allowed on tracks so I'll simply get a trailer and no longer have to worry about diesel, oncoming traffic and chavs. That is if I'm still into bikes in twenty years time (as I'll be ** years old) or even still here on planet Earth.

Accept the things you can't change etc, and if this is one of them then I'll have to grudgingly accept it (though I might decide to fight very hard first ).

Anyway, let's not get too vexed about something that is way in the future and far from certain. Just get on your bike and ride it while you've got the chance .



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Originally Posted by Ceri JC

If bikes were banned from the road, I'd keep a track bike (presumably that won't be banned) and go out for blasts on the road from time to time on that. I'd just accept that you'd have to try to outrun any police you came across.

Of course, a lot of other people would do the same and it'd be sooooo much safer than the current situation.

although i am not a blatened law breaker i would have to agree with you as many goverments have found out prohibtion on anything never works and normally results in a increase in dangers of that activity in the first place

After giving this subject some thought I have come to the conclusion that it is a:

CROCK OF ****!

Originally Posted by Scoobs

After giving this subject some thought I have come to the conclusion that it is a:

CROCK OF sh*t!

Good point and well made.

OK for those that think it is just MCN scare-mongering here's some links, form your own opinions by reading the source

http://www.rmd.dft.gov.uk/project.as...rojectID=11730

http://www.sei.se/visionzero/moreinfo.htm

http://www.vagverket.se/filer/2586/nollvisionen_eng.pdf

I like this one - http://www.streetbiker-mag.com/sb0129/oseas.html

Originally Posted by Patch

http://www.vagverket.se/filer/2586/nollvisionen_eng.pdf

I particularly dislike the last page of that one. The idea of "shared responsibility" is ludicrious. Why should I be responsible for the dolt who consiously runs red lights, undertakes on the hard shoulder, doesn't check his mirrors/blindspot before overtaking, etc.? It's nothing to do with me at all.

This idea of moving towards humanity being a single entity would be great, if so many people weren't completely stupid.

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

Next we will have Vision Zero in the home. Knives will be banned so as to avoid injuries in the kitchen. Stairs will be removed and houses will only be able to have a ground floor so people can't fall down them. Sports will be banned so that there are no sports injuries. Etc. Etc.

What a complete load of rubbish.

Sickeningly, your joke about banning knives isn't far off. They want to ban pointed chefs knives on the grounds that the sharp tip serves no purpose to chefs, but makes it a more deadly weapon. They consulted with 'top chefs' to come to the conclusion that the tip serves no purpose to chefs. Obviously top chefs who have the luxury of expensive and fresh ingrediants never have to open thick plastic, vaccum sealed packs of meat (the only easy way I've found do this is to stab it with the pointed end of a pair of scissors or chefs knife ).

What's next after that, let's aim to prevent people of dying of old age by hooking everyone up to life support machines in staffed wards, the day they turn 65.

Life is fatal, get over it.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

Sickeningly, your joke about banning knives isn't far off. They want to ban pointed chefs knives on the grounds that the sharp tip serves no purpose to chefs, but makes it a more deadly weapon. They consulted with 'top chefs' to come to the conclusion that the tip serves no purpose to chefs. Obviously top chefs who have the luxury of expensive and fresh ingrediants never have to open thick plastic, vaccum sealed packs of meat (the only easy way I've found do this is to stab it with the pointed end of a pair of scissors or chefs knife ).

What's next after that, let's aim to prevent people of dying of old age by hooking everyone up to life support machines in staffed wards, the day they turn 65.

Life is fatal, get over it.

then you just buy a grinder and and make your own point.

Originally Posted by Grinch

then you just buy a grinder and and make your own point.

You think they'll let us have access to tools in this "Perfect Safe World (TM)"?!