I make no apologies for my temper.

I agree with the majority, I would have done exactly the same, although I don't think I would have had so much self control.

I think the issue here is for the safety of the man. He was threatening and that alone is enough to get himself a good kicking. If the man has a mental illness and that his actions are to a degree not his fault, then surely he is a danger to himself if not others.

As I said, I would not have been so self controlled and would have given the bloke more than a push. As I am sure would plenty of others. With a mental state of mind such as his, should he not be in a hospital for his own safety

Agree with ya totally Tim, guy needs to be reported or something def.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

Certainly nothing to apologise about. Perfectly normal. Admire the fact that you quite restrained especially as you did not know his mental state.


No offence but the two qoutes below IMHO are just rubbish.

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Ben

Ben...

please can you tell me why you think this is rubbish...

i have my reasonong for this..


please pm me with ur reply if you wish

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Alex

I don't think you overreacted. You used no violence, just a bit of force. It was reasonable to think this bloke was a nasty ar*ehole as opposed to someone with psychological problems - he scared the wits out of your daughter, and made clear indications that he could be violent.

knowing the facts re his state of mind afterwards may have caused some guilt - but not necessarily justified guilt. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Erm, sorry but....

You're daughter is old enough to learn to stand up for a herself a bit more. Running away from someone dodgy is a good idea generally though (so well done to her on that instinct).

As for your actions, I wouldn't have done that. You never know what kind of a nutter he could have been, and I'm sure that your daughter would never want you to get hurt on her behalf.

Just my two pennies. Good excuse for a hug to let each other know you care though.

hmmm

In retrospect? That you even ask the question hints to your own doubts on the matter. Yours was a very natural response and in the end no *actual* harm was done. So all in is in balance. It was a foolish set of circumstances and will pass as quickly.

But if it happens next again, there are people legally entrusted to do this kind of thing. Inform them. Its much safer for all concerned.

And hopefully I will never have to find out how I will respond in such a situation.

[tinpants]

A perfectly understandable reaction. I wouldn't advocate it as a usual response to something like this- you never know if the culprit is "carrying" or not.

A better solution, with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight, would probably have been to call the polizei and make a formal complaint. A bit wishy-washy I know but sometimes you have to log these things officially.




Just for the record, on the "not known to be violent" thing, Charles Manson had the very same thing said about him. Go figure?!

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Halonic

hmmm

In retrospect? That you even ask the question hints to your own doubts on the matter. Yours was a very natural response and in the end no *actual* harm was done. So all in is in balance. It was a foolish set of circumstances and will pass as quickly.

But if it happens next again, there are people legally entrusted to do this kind of thing. Inform them. Its much safer for all concerned.

And hopefully I will never have to find out how I will respond in such a situation.

I asked the question because I was so angry at the response I got from my wife. She knows that I will not walk away from a confrontation when I believe myself to be in the right. In the cold light of day, it was a foolhardy act on my part. To confront somebody on a country lane is silly and asking for trouble, my defence is simply that I was adrenalin fueled.

It has been pointed out to me that I know this young mans father, I shall be having a word.

Originally Posted by timwilky

I asked the question because I was so angry at the response I got from my wife. She knows that I will not walk away from a confrontation when I believe myself to be in the right. In the cold light of day, it was a foolhardy act on my part. To confront somebody on a country lane is silly and asking for trouble, my defence is simply that I was adrenalin fueled.

It has been pointed out to me that I know this young mans father, I shall be having a word.

I think she sees the prospect of random nutter taking her husband away from her by (worst case scenario) either clubbing said nutter to death or yourself taking, quite righteous but ill advised, vengance on the nutter. I would expect no less a response from those that cared for me. And we All have done much under the red mist, that we later question. You did well overall.

But yes, having a polite word is probably the best course of action for both parties, very wise.

Look at it this way, you didnt retaliate to the extremes of your capabilities, no one has overly suffered and each party has been spooked by this. You have paused to reflect on this and you have seen a peaceful way to prevent this from occuring again. Damn fine result by the looks of it no?

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

I think you showed admirable restraint.I don't buy this idea that because he has mental "problems" he should be allowed to go around behaving badly and threatening others.If he can't behave to an acceptable standard he should'nt be allowed out unsupervised both for society's good and his own.If he did that in one or two places I could think of round here he would end up in hospital or dead.

My POV exactly. People like that shouldn't be allowed out unsupervised. All it takes is for him to annoy a group of lads looking for a bit of a pagga and it's "lights out, lunatic".