Tokyo commuter (56k?HAHAHAHA!)

[jambo]

Meh, was going a bit faster than I would have, and went for some gaps I wouldn't but I don't know the road. If you commute in london for a couple of years this sort of stuff is only a step or 2 up from a fast run for some.

Originally Posted by Jdubya

You're just jealous

ahh well you never know he might get knocked off and killed and mentally scar some innocent person just because he was riding like a complete and utter

Jealous, not quite.

I see around 1 serious accident per month coming home and im not scarred yet? In fact, on the A2 about 3 weeks ago i had a guy come right up the inside of me (im between 2 lanes, hes joing my inside lane from a sliproad) and he simply didn't judge things right, hit the brakes, and rammed a Focus Estate. This was about 2 meters to my left.

AS a result, the guy flew up in the air (About the focus's roof height), flipped over and landed on his back. The bike got totalled big time and also flipped (back over front).

Didn't seem to effect me, or the driver of the car he hit, nor the 3 cars and bikes that stopped around us.

Gladly, all involved were ok and only pride was hurt, but he "looked" lucky to get away. Didn't scar me though.

I do understand you point though, but he wasn't riding like a "insert the appropriate smiley here" though. Just a little fast.

Remember, gaps on cameras/films etc seem tiny, yet when your on a bike, those gaps are far more judgeable and its a lot different.

Its like "playing a computer game" then going out and riding on the real road. Both look very very similar, but are totally different.

[anna]

My point is that it's not just the rider (us) accidents effect, their are others on the road and if that person is scarred because of our actions thier is no-one else to blame. If it happens to be the cages fault, No i have no sympathy for them, but if you ride like a loony then someone is going to get hurt (possibly). And that is truly tragic!!

But who these days would be concerned about the other party? Im not saying it to be nasty, and there are those few people out there still, but mostly these days, no-one would care. Its just the way things are now.

Especially if i'd just crashed my bike, being my fault or someone elses. I still wouldn't be bothered about the person in the cars mental health, i'd be more worried about myself, my bike, and how much its gonna bloody cost me to sort it. If the person was injured, yeah ok, i'd be concerned, but for their mental health, thats down the individual and their strength of mind.

An accident like that wouldn't scar someone for the rest of their life. MAybe a few restless nights, but they would get over it easy enough.

(Unless it was a serious one like a decapitation, in which case i wouldn't care anyway, is i'd be dead). Part of the risks of riding a motorcycle. If your going to worry about things like that, then why ride a bike at all?

But who these days would be concerned about the other party? Im not saying it to be nasty, and there are those few people out there still, but mostly these days, no-one would care. Its just the way things are now.

Especially if i'd just crashed my bike, being my fault or someone elses. I still wouldn't be bothered about the person in the cars mental health, i'd be more worried about myself, my bike, and how much its gonna bloody cost me to sort it. If the person was injured, yeah ok, i'd be concerned, but for their mental health, thats down the individual and their strength of mind.

An accident like that wouldn't scar someone for the rest of their life. MAybe a few restless nights, but they would get over it easy enough.

(Unless it was a serious one like a decapitation, in which case i wouldn't care anyway, is i'd be dead). Part of the risks of riding a motorcycle. If your going to worry about things like that, then why ride a bike at all?

If i was in a car and I knocked somebody and hurt/killed them, and it was their fault then maybe I wouldnt feel that sorry for them as it was their fault (I dont know as ive nevver been in that situation). But not all people are the same as you and I, are they??

And im not worried about it, Its just something to mull over when you consider someone that rides like the guy/gal in the video. Last year I did go through a of getting worried about crashes un all (part pressure form the wife) but i decided the pleasure i get from riding a bike outweighs it so I bought another T'Cat, and love it

Nahh man, im not arguing, just chatting , its Friday afternoon and its "one of those afternoons of boredom"

Originally Posted by Akula

My point is that it's not just the rider (us) accidents effect, their are others on the road and if that person is scarred because of our actions thier is no-one else to blame. If it happens to be the cages fault, No i have no sympathy for them, but if you ride like a loony then someone is going to get hurt (possibly). And that is truly tragic!!

Well dispite riding pretty much every day and riding in a spirited manner almost every time I'm on the bike, the only times I've fallen off are when I wasnt speeding or doing anything else silly. Just because someone somtimes rides like a luney doesnt mean they are doomed to die because of it. What you're saying sounds like arrogant government health and safety rhetoric. I don't need saving from myself, thanks.

As for scaring other road users...

My priorities in life are to live it firstly, then to not prematurely end it for myself, then my family, then my friends and so on...

Not getting killed because it might upset an anonymous stranger is so far down the list it's barely a consideration.