BREAKING NEWS - Moussaoui is spared death penalty

Originally Posted by Speedy

The trouble is,Jail is TOO good for scumbags like this,and the ones over here.

They should be how prisons used to be,i.e. Bread and Water,horrible conditions etc etc,if they were a place to be feared I imagine less crimes would be committed.

And those that get caught and go to prison,would probably be at lesser risk of re-offending.

In cases like this though,he should be put to death IMO,but in a Horrific way,and Broadcast to the countries where these terrorists originate. Like THEY have when they capture innocent people and broadcast Be-headings etc!

See now normally I agree with the death penalty. But reading that Im wondering what distinction is there between what they have done - showing that beheading on tv and what you are proposing? Or is it just our system is the "right" one so thats ok for us to do it but theyre terrorists when they do it?

[Simplify Politics]

Tbh its American double standards and hypocrisy on foreign affairs that created Al Quaeda.

Had Reagan not trained, armed and funded the Taliban to fight the Russians and then went back on his word and ceased all aid and funding to the people they wouldnt have such a grudge against the USA.

Add on to Americas Israeli sympathies and willingness to criticise Arab atrocities while turning a blind eye to Israels activities in that area, and you get a bunch of ****ed off people.

The palestinians are at the point they have nothing left to sacrifice but their lives. Trying to find a political solution will not be easy, but it has to be done.

A start would be for Israel to stop with their concentration/torture camps and the US administration ignoring it.

[/Simplify Politics]



Is it just me btw that finds it tragically ironic that the Israelis who suffered so much in concentration camps in the second world war think nothing of putting Palestinians in them. Ok they arent gassing them but they certainly are torturing people, not necessarily guilty of anything if the documentary on this I watched was anything to go by.

Btw, anyone know what happened to Akbhar? Hes usually appearing in these threads by now. :P

Death by state. Prison ain't that nice ya know.
When he meets 300lb Eugene who wants to be more than pen pals...lethal injection...the injection he will be getting will be far worse than lethal.

[Biker Biggles]

Akbar?The Yanks kidnapped him and took him away for some extraordinary rendition.
BTW quite correct in your poliyical analysis.
As for the death penalty I'm against it on principle but this bloke was hardly a good candidate anyway.An attention seeking nutter who was in prison when the 9/11 took place did'nt fool the jury and eventually won't fool anyone else either.

Originally Posted by lynw

[pedant]

Sorry to point this out, but its not your taxes paying for him in jail. Not unless Kent and the UK has become a US state overnight.
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:P

Speedy/Babyj, if you want to talk thats what the megathread is for rather than derailing other threads.

HTH.

Does it really matter who's taxes are paying for him to sit in jail, you know the principal is the same I didn't mean our taxes, our country. The point I was making was

He sits a cushy jail being waited on hand and foot.
He watches Sky TV (when he wants)
Has a games room to go to (when he wants)
Has all the mod cons
Has 3 proper cooked meals a day
Has central heating/air conditioning
AND gets PAID for the privelage!

And who foots this bill?? THE TAX PAYER!

I don't neccessarily agree with the death penalty but I think the punishment should fit the crime and in most cases it doesn't. In this case he should be shot. Simple. We should also copy the US and when they say life it should mean LIFE, not just 3 month sentence for time served!!

As for you Speedy.... anywhere you wanna chat is fine with me hun

Originally Posted by BabyJ

Does it really matter who's taxes are paying for him to sit in jail, blah blah blah blah blah

Oh look spot the sense of humour failure.

Stop taking things so literally, I was taking the mick. Kind of indicated with the [pedant] "coding", the :P and the .

[Speedy]

[quote="lynw"]

Originally Posted by Speedy

The trouble is,Jail is TOO good for scumbags like this,and the ones over here.

They should be how prisons used to be,i.e. Bread and Water,horrible conditions etc etc,if they were a place to be feared I imagine less crimes would be committed.

And those that get caught and go to prison,would probably be at lesser risk of re-offending.

See now normally I agree with the death penalty. But reading that Im wondering what distinction is there between what they have done - showing that beheading on tv and what you are proposing? Or is it just our system is the "right" one so thats ok for us to do it but theyre terrorists when they do it?

Hi lynw!

I was'nt saying that we should cut his head off in public/or on telly,that is barbaric.

But they could brordcast his execution(injection),which I personally think IS HORRIFIC enough,to make it clear that this sort of crime will not go un-punished,and the punishment is just.

I cannot imagine what those poor people on those planes must have been feeling when they were high-jacked,and appoached the World Trade Centre,knowing they were going to die.

I cannot imagine how those peoples families must have felt/feel about losing their loved ones in the buildings and planes that were attacked.

And I cannot forget the pictures of the people,JUMPING from the windows of the damaged Towers,and the final moments before the planes hit.

So I'm sorry if my views are strong,but that day has changed the course of ALL our lives,and not for the better.

Have you ever been inside a British or American jail?

Not pleasant. I've heard people say this and that but you really, really wouldn't.

Originally Posted by lynw

Oh look spot the sense of humour failure.

Stop taking things so literally, I was taking the mick. Kind of indicated with the [pedant] "coding", the :P and the .

I'm sorry but I thought this was a serious debate we were having.

Was the politics *spiel* that you ranted on about not serious conversation?
I don't recall seeing a or a :P during those posts.

If you think the talking about 911 (or any other terrorist act) has or is supposed to have a *humourous* theme then please feel free to point out the funny parts.

[Speedy]

To The Basket
Nope! But then I'm not a convicted criminal,IMO,If you have something to do with an outrage like that,then you fore-fit all your human-rights,and if you don't get put to death,you get locked away,never to breath 'free-air' again.

Originally Posted by BabyJ

Was the politics *spiel* that you ranted on about not serious conversation?

I don't recall seeing a or a :P during those posts.

Ok for the simple:

or :P = Im taking the mick out of you for having a go about tax payers when your not a tax payer keeping him.

No or :P - thats the serious bit.

How fecking hard was that to understand?

If you think the talking about 911 (or any other terrorist act) has or is supposed to have a *humourous* theme then please feel free to point out the funny parts.

I was actually taking the mick out of what you put and how you phrased it.
If you take that to mean I remotely find anything amusing about 911 then you are really dumb. Get a grip.