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Old 05-08-06, 10:26 PM   #21
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Thing is when you train on a larger motorcycle you get used to the difference in weight, power, better brakes, suspension etc. When I was riding around on my 125cc getting on a huge 500cc machine would have scared the bejesus out of me as I would not have know how to control the vehicle safely. Hence the DAS test and also the restriced licence. You can quickly get yourself into an alien situation with the extra power, it's much easier than you think.
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:28 PM   #22
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The issue wasnt about sitting at 80 / 85 as thats what i normally do with no problems, the issues were that more than once today being able to accelerate past the car on my left to pull back into the 1st / middle lane could of saved me alot of annoyance with basards sitting right on my tail (normally doesnt bother me but couple of people today were REALLY taking the p*ss)
But this is what puzzles me, why do you think this isnt going to happen when youre on a fully powered SV? It happens while youre at 80/85. I can guarantee that if you have full power and are sitting at 90, there will be a faster car that comes and sits on youre ****. And if you go up to 100, there will be an even faster car that does it.

At the end of the day, just because someones hammering up behind you doesnt mean you HAVE to accelerate to get past what you're overtaking to pull in quicker. They have to drive accordingly - and even if you did that they will get held up by a fiesta doing 70 past 2 lorries somewhere down the road and they will deal with it accordingly.

What you need to do is stop being intimidated to feel you need to speed up to complete your overtake and risk your licence. You need to ride within your limits and bikes limits, the car behind will just have to deal with that while you do your overtake. What annoys them really is if you dont go back in after.

Tailgating is extremely annoying and dangerous but its equally frequently common. Sorry to say but you are just going to have to get used to it and deal with it when it happens without losing your temper and getting angry. Because otherwise youre going to be angry after every ride you take.
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:28 PM   #23
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Meh i dont know, restricted SV... you get used to the weight, breaks, suspension etc without the extra power and as pointed out before as long as you arnt stupid the extra power can be a god send when you need it.
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:29 PM   #24
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This just seems sill to me... we all get carved up by people... its more annoying when your trying to keep to the limits. Well all have had to go though things to get the license we have today, patience. I myself have done stupid things (and 9 points to show for it) but speed is not the things that makes you a biker. Its riding in the snow you soft Nancy boy (oh feisty Grinch), so when you come back to me and told me about how you had to stop and scrap the compacted ice/snow off you lights and gear then I might re-think my views.

Was that harsh? Oh well... back to me pipe and slippers.
I bet 99% of bikers don't ride in snow! This isn't a thread about being a real biker.


I doubt most bikers on the road are 100% legal, admittedly riding a bike you're not licensed to ride is taking the p*ss. It's his choice, even if I disapprove of it.
Scus me I was being pedantic...

and why don't you ride in the snow... its great...

Anyway... you need to learn how to use the power you have, gears and such... you shouldn't have any problems getting past stuff. Your just not using it right, I'm sure you'll get it in time... try 3 years on 125's that will teach you all about peak speeds and corner velocity.
Just use that gear box more and drop it down a few when you want to get a shifty on...
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:30 PM   #25
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But this is what puzzles me, why do you think this isnt going to happen when youre on a fully powered SV? It happens while youre at 80/85. I can guarantee that if you have full power and are sitting at 90, there will be a faster car that comes and sits on youre @rse. And if you go up to 100, there will be an even faster car that does it.

At the end of the day, just because someones hammering up behind you doesnt mean you HAVE to accelerate to get past what you're overtaking to pull in quicker. They have to drive accordingly - and even if you did that they will get held up by a fiesta doing 70 past 2 lorries somewhere down the road and they will deal with it accordingly.

What you need to do is stop being intimidated to feel you need to speed up to complete your overtake and risk your licence. You need to ride within your limits and bikes limits, the car behind will just have to deal with that while you do your overtake. What annoys them really is if you dont go back in after.

Frankly, if you cant deal with people tailgating you shouldnt be on the road. Its extremely annoying and dangerous but its equally frequently common. Sorry to say but you are just going to have to get used to it and deal with it when it happens without losing your temper and getting angry. Because otherwise youre going to be angry after every ride you take.
I think im definatly not explaining things as I want to so im just going to give up
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:31 PM   #26
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I did my DAS test on a ER-5 after a CBT on a CG125 and a few months on my SR125.

TBH the difference in power between them is a lot. On a 125 I struggled to get up to 60mph while on DAS I could accelerate quickly up to 70mph. It's not all about high speeds any way. And I wouldn't expect a rider to jump on a 170-187mph sports bike straight after his DAS.
 
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I did my DAS test on a ER-5 after a CBT on a CG125 and a few months on my SR125.

TBH the difference in power between them is a lot. On a 125 I struggled to get up to 60mph while on DAS I could accelerate quickly up to 70mph. It's not all about high speeds any way. And I wouldn't expect a rider to jump on a 170-187mph sports bike straight after his DAS.
But people do
 
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I did my DAS test on a ER-5 after a CBT on a CG125 and a few months on my SR125.

TBH the difference in power between them is a lot. On a 125 I struggled to get up to 60mph while on DAS I could accelerate quickly up to 70mph. It's not all about high speeds any way. And I wouldn't expect a rider to jump on a 170-187mph sports bike straight after his DAS.
But people do
Yes I know, but that's a minority and they'll probably kill themselves. Big generalistion there. See you on the rideout tomorrow. I'm gonna get some rest.
 
Old 05-08-06, 10:39 PM   #29
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I did my DAS test on a ER-5 after a CBT on a CG125 and a few months on my SR125.

TBH the difference in power between them is a lot. On a 125 I struggled to get up to 60mph while on DAS I could accelerate quickly up to 70mph. It's not all about high speeds any way. And I wouldn't expect a rider to jump on a 170-187mph sports bike straight after his DAS.
But people do
Yep and go onto the CBR forum or other such forum and ask how many people who had them as first bikes binned them shortly after. I read a thread on that forum a while back that indicated it was a lot.

PS. Sorry for the other posts, obviously misunderstood what you were saying. But if its any consolation I loathe people who tailgate.
 
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For those that would like to know I dont plan on keeping it unrestricted.
Good man. Personally I think you're doing the right thing.
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