Two men removed from Monarch Flight

This does sound like an over-reaction and pandering to mob hysteria. This sort of thing plays into the hands of fundamentalists looking to create divisions who'll use it a evidence of a prejudiced society. Unfortunately in this instance I have to say they have a point.

hmmmm lets think:

a plane back to Manchester, no doubt full of Mancunians having been on the booze for two weeks - anyone care to show me any normal person that wouldnt be acting worried. :P

Seriously, this is a disgrace. Why dont we just implement an apartheid system now? Whites only flights, muslim only flights. Because that unfortunately is where this will ultimately take us if we pander to mob rule.

People run the "what if they were acting suspiciously" routine. Well if they had anything and had managed to get it through security they would have been arrested and detained. The point is they hadnt - they were allowed to fly back the next day.

We run the risk of alienating more young muslims by the hysterical reactions and the treatment they receive - if anyone is pushing them towards fundamentalism and becoming the threat British people are terrified of it is the British people themselves. We reap what we sow - we treat people like this, so why should we be surprised when they become influenced by hate clerics.

Originally Posted by lynw

Why dont we just implement an apartheid system now? Whites only flights, muslim only flights.

What about the white muslims? :P

Seriously though, well said.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Stu

I was under the impression that so many people refused to board so that Monarch took the view that it was easier to offload the 2 men than sort out onward transport for so many other people.

Wel, exactly. Easier to pander to cretins than to do the right thing. "Get on theplane or walk home, no refunds" should have been the first and only response.

Originally Posted by northwind

Wel, exactly. Easier to pander to cretins than to do the right thing. "Get on theplane or walk home, no refunds" should have been the first and only response.

yep, i hope that they sue for a lot of money,

oh and by the way, security is rubbish. my mate and i travelled on a flight from leeds - edinburgh for work (this was a few months ago btw)

all was fine going out but on the way back the security guard found a stanley knife that had been in her hand luggage all the time

you should have seem our faces though, I thought we were gonna get arrested for sure

Shove over Viney I'm joining you on the fence for this one as well!

Originally Posted by sharriso74

With Osmas millions do you really think any self respecting terrorist would fly monarch

Another classic one liner

[Stu]

I take it all back.

Having seen the family form the UK/Dubai? being removed from the queue for the London Eye for speaking Arabic - THE WHOLE WORLD'S GONE MAD!

And I for one don't want to live in a world with that much predjudice, injustice, stupidity and fear.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Stu

I take it all back.

Having seen the family form the UK/Dubai? being removed from the queue for the London Eye for speaking Arabic - THE WHOLE WORLD'S GONE MAD!

And I for one don't want to live in a world with that much predjudice, injustice, stupidity and fear.

Unreal!
What de fu is going on in the minds of some people?

[timwilky]

A while back I was flying from Manchester to Dubai. Because of **** ups with incoming flights I ended up transferred at the last minute to an Emirates flight.


When I boarded the lady in the adjacent seat initially assumed I was Emirates crew and then explained that the two seats we were occupying were reserved normally for returning crew.

Across the aisle there was an obviously Arab guy behaving strangely, she asked me did I find him suspicious and I did. He was talking to himself and his hands were moving all over the place. Halfway through the flight he went to the toilets. 2 minutes later the fire alarms went off. The off duty lady next to me ran down the aisle, grabbed a fire extinguisher from an overhead locker and kicked open the door.

They brought back the individual to his seat and his friend tried to explain that the guy had head problems. so they confiscated his friends lighter as well.

She then told me when she sat down that he had filled the toilet bowl & sink with disposable towels/loo roll and set fire to it. When we landed these two were taken off by police who boarded the aircraft before anyone was allowed to leave.

Having seen first hand the stupid antics that people are prepared to do on aircraft, I have to admit that I would be wary of flying with somebody I thought suspicious. I would not demand that somebody leave a plane simply because of their nationality/colour etc. But once suspicions raised I would be watching for the first sign of them upto something.

Interesting that we were discussing hijacking in the pub a few days ago. The consensus being that it would no longer occur as passengers attitudes have been changed from do nothing and you might get out alive, into I would rather die fighting and might survive than sit here a die doing nothing.

Question. Are there enough keywords in this thread to ring an alarm on the Echelon system?