balifs are coming

they can only get in initially if ou let them in.. which would be a grave error..

once you have let them in.. they cvan make a "walking possession order" and therafter if you surpass the date of payment they can then use reasonable force to gain entry to take the possessions to sell at auction to raise funds for the debt.

simple rule.. dont let them in..

Originally Posted by carlos

Jeez hovi5
For the record I think ALL bailiffs are real pond life - anyone who can rip a TV away from young kids watching Tellytubies deserves to spend thier eternity burning in hell.

I would blame the parents there for putting the kids in that situation. I hope I get something back from the bloke that ripped me off - if the option was to send the bailiff around it wouldve been done County Court route took forever.

Hey Hovi5

One other thing. Make sure that all windows on the property are closed. If a window is open and you refuse access to the property they can and will attempt access through windows. (this is common practice and is deemed acceptable by baliffs).

Otherwise remain calm but ascertive maitaining appropriate social space (seen as being at arms length) and you'll be fine. If possible video any interaction with the baliffs (which you are legally entitle to do).

Keep these simple guidelines and you'll be fine. Had exactly the same experience about 5 years ago, my sympathy man, its sh*t.

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Baliffs can only legally gain access if the name and adderess on their paperwork matches the name and address of a resident. If they arrive and say "Are you Mr X of 38 Y Avenue?" and you are not, then they have to leave. They cannot say "Well we are here to take your property"

I had them round loads in my last house when they were chasing the previous occupant. They were always quite nice about it. I used to say, "I'm not Joanne X" they used to do a "Do you know where she lives?"

Originally Posted by shop_addict

On each occassion I called them to explain. Twice they accepted that over the phone. The other time the guy turned up, I showed him a utility bill in my name, and he said that was enough and left.

I wouldn't be too concerned If I were you, but then I guess that's easy for me to say that now. First time it happened I was terrified they were going to barge in and grab the telly.

i had A LOT of problems at a previous address where the tenant before had defaulted on just about every type of loan, credit card, utility bill, etc you can imagine! My experience though has always been along the line of Jo's - so while good to be prepared in case they are the nasty type, fingers crossed that in this case they turn out to be more reasonable

Understand this: bailiffs are bullies. They work on the premise of intimidation, and earn their money from success. If they realize that you know the law, and will put up a fight, they'll more than likely send the case back and move on to easier pickings.

Even with a court order (trust me on this) they have NO right of entry. This applies to everything (including unpaid Council Tax), with the exception of Revenue and Customs.

Under no circumstances (as has been written above) let them in, no matter how persuasive they are, even if they just want to "talk" (and even if they have a policeman with them — he's only there as a bystander to ensure there is no Breach of the Peace, and has abslutely no jurisdiction in the matter whatsoever). The minute that they have gained access, they own you. Truly, it's that simple. Even if you don't sign a Walking Possession order, they can then break into your home at any time of the day or night, quite legally.

If you have money problems, go to your local CAB or (even better) call the CCCS ( http://www.cccs.co.uk/ ) who are a charity and will offer you very good advice and prepare financial statements for you, without charge.

So don't be intimidated, don't even worry. If you don't let the blood-sucking b*stards in, you're fine.

Oh, and they can only call between 6.30am and 9.30pm Mon to Sat, so you can sleep tight, and fully relax on Sundays.

If you need more help and advice, then PM me.


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[timwilky]

Why do so many people on this forum know about fending off baliffs?.

Originally Posted by timwilky

Why do so many people on this forum know about fending off baliffs?.

I'm prepared to bet that the percentage of peeps "in the know" on this forum, is no greater than any other.


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[timwilky]

Originally Posted by jonboy

I'm prepared to bet that the percentage of peeps "in the know" on this forum, is no greater than any other.


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Sorry if anyone read anything into my post beyond the actual question. Not ever having had, or know of anyone who has had dealing with these baliffs. I was suprised at the number of people who were able to offer useful advice to hovi5.

The org proves itself yet again as a useful source of real world information.

Originally Posted by hovi5

thanx

she has lived here for 22 years, so the guy cought speeding just gave a dodgy adress

Rather than worrying about these people entering your premises and the threat of them taking your belongings, wouldn't it be easier to have your driving licence to hand and a couple of other forms of ID and show them to them at the door. Exit the house and close the door behind you remembering to take your keys, then tell them politely they have the wrong person so please don't call again as this is causing you and your mother considerable stress! They should be able to check your things and walk away.

You have a clear concience so try not to worry!!

Hope you get it sorted anyway - Let us know what happens