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Old 25-11-06, 12:36 PM   #21
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Alot of emotion in that piece. I hope you are able to get back on a bike soon and all injuries clear up.

I have had a few run ins with van/truck drivers, for some the action and consequence of situations seems messed up.
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Old 25-11-06, 12:39 PM   #22
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Thanks for all your support, has anyone had any experience with bike specialist lawyers? I don't just want to be compensated for my loss of bike and the time I have had of work. I would like to change that road so there is street lighting all the way up that road instead of just at the bottom. Maybe it will prevent accidents in the future and that road won't live up to it's name anymore.
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Old 25-11-06, 12:42 PM   #23
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White Dalton get a good press on here.My son used Bromilly Holcroft and they were good.It is worth getting one though,as they will maximise your compensation.
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Old 25-11-06, 01:04 PM   #24
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I am just glad you are all so perfect accident free drivers riders . You make me feel so much safer
knowing that you don't speed or make any mistakes. Look at the facts regarding the number of other vehicles on the roads compared to bikes,and the figures regarding mileage for said vehicles.
I am being criticised for saying that the lorry driver did not do it intentionally. my point being that most accidents, are what they are,accidents. Surely statistically if you only do 10,000 miles a year in comparison to 80,000 miles a year you are more likely to have an accident. I ride at night as do many of you but how many of you ride to the beam of your lights and adjust your speed accordingly or how many ride hoping the road is clear ahead of the beam-----be honest,I'll admit I don't ride to my visibility as most of my night riding is done on roads I know.

With the number of accidents,offs and incidents that get posted on this and other motorbike sites
it astounds me that we don't take more care,knowing we are at such high risk.but the"It will not happen to me" mentality persists. I've been on several ride outs and seen people overtake,filter,
speed and take chances on bends, not slowing down for changes in road condition but alas that seems to be the nature of biking,the thrill, the buzz,the rush call it what you like. What percentage
of SV ride outs are incident free?

----Its a high risk game and when its your turn,its your turn,in this case matey was a very very lucky person and I'm glad his injuries are minor. Sorry it had to happen and sincerely hope he feels better soon plus gets compensated accordingly for the loss of bike ,injury etc.
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Old 25-11-06, 01:21 PM   #25
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I am being criticised for saying that the lorry driver did not do it intentionally. my point being that most accidents, are what they are,accidents.
Accidents don't just happen FACT

And if this tw@ of a lorry driver didn't do intentionally then I hate to think the outcome if he did

The guy cut across traffic via unbroken white lines in the dark with no lights on, and with blatantly no prior observations whatsoever. The guy should be banned IMO end of.

Not all drivers are this bad, that is obvious, but this guy could have caused a death through his own stupidity.
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Old 25-11-06, 01:32 PM   #26
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With the number of accidents,offs and incidents that get posted on this and other motorbike sites it astounds me that we don't take more care,knowing we are at such high risk.but the"It will not happen to me" mentality persists. I've been on several ride outs and seen people overtake, filter, speed and take chances on bends, not slowing down for changes in road condition but alas that seems to be the nature of biking,the thrill, the buzz,the rush call it what you like. What percentage
of SV ride outs are incident free?
You are saying about bikers what you criticised others for saying about truckers - does that make you a hypocrite?

A lot of us do take a lot of care, and yes it is a number game, mainly because of **** heads like the one that got RedEye.

I can guarantee you that I (and probably most other bikers) have more accidents or close calls that were the fault of someone else and not themselves.

Like I said **** head, and what you wrote above proves it, we are talking about people lives here and implying that bikers are partly to blame for accidents that are 100% other peoples fault is pretty offensive......

If you made all bikers ride perfectly then there would still be a lot of accidents, 4 wheelers just don't give a **** any more - cyclists say it, pedestrians say it and bikers say it, but as the 4 wheelers are in the majority and as the government is only interested in speeding nothing is ever done about it.

You have got more chance of being killed by an inattentive trucker or van driver than you have of being killed by a filtering or speeding biker - what is so difficult to understand about that concept?
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Old 25-11-06, 04:00 PM   #27
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I am not a "d**k head" but simple stating facts and if you read the posts correctly I have never stood up for or condoned the lorry driver or rider You want to take a bias attitude then that is your privilege but if your post is aimed personally at me its water off a ducks back
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Old 25-11-06, 04:19 PM   #28
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Dicky, I believe that Andy was referring to the truck driver when he said the d-word (unless I'm much mistaken) Andy: I was a courier for three years in london, doing 60-80 hrs a week, and so I've had more than my fair share of knocks and scrapes. I can say in perfect confidence that NOT ONE OF THEM was 100% someone else's fault! There is always an opportunity for you to improve either your riding, your observation or your attitude to risk taking when on a bike, and I think the "it's everyone elses fault but the poor biker" mentality leads to a lot of animosity on the road, as well as accidents.

I drive a van for work, and although I try damn hard I'm nowhere near as observant when in the van than I am on the bike, it's just not possible (there are too many blind spots), but I try to think where I would be if I were a bike. I'm only able to do that as I've had experience on a bike, and unfortunately most cage drivers don't have that luxury.

I do agree that the driver in this case was very out of order, crossing a lane at light with no lights is very stupid, but as he was heading for a layby, it's possible that he was having problems with the vehicle. We just don't know.

It's really easy to demonise other road users, and I hate it when it's done to me (all bikers are nutters or whatever) so lets just try to get along out there, eh?
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Old 25-11-06, 04:21 PM   #29
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This in no way implies that I'm not sympathetic to Redeyes plight, however!!!!

That should cover my back I hope

Love you all!
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Old 25-11-06, 04:44 PM   #30
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Bad luck Redeyes and a lucky one to get out of. And as the derail/ranting goes, well said Pigbunk. Some sense there.
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