Ebay mishap

He wont get the final value fee applied to his charges if he lodges a non paying bidder report with ebay. Both parties still get to leave feedback and noone gets a (visible anyway) mark against them. (make sure he selects "both parties agree not to continue with transaction" or something to that effect)

Unless you intend doing this regularly, even if you have a non paying bidder mark on your account for ebay to see - it wont affect your account now, or in the future and will not appear on your feedback.

Pete

So people cannot see that I have a non paying bidder mark on the account? Or I might just give him the cash

[Stu]

Viney and Jdubya are wrong and Baph is very nearly right.
There's nothing funny going on, just that he set a £300 reserve, which your bid reached - you don't need to exceed a reserve so £310 is not relevant (My reference to it and Ducati in my first post was because your description looked like a different auction before you posted the link).

There is no justification for you paying his listing fees - the seller had to pay them with or without you.
There is no justification for you paying his final value fees - the seller can get a refund if he sends you a "Mutually agree not to continue" form.

IMHO I would never pay £5 to avoid negative feedback. Other sellers can restrict bidders automatically if they have a certain number (that they set) of non payment strikes, but that's unusual.

I would offer him the £154 and just hope he doesn't give negative feedback, you can always give him negative feedback for being unreasonable if he does.

Cheers Stu, I've been relaying emails to him over the last few days. Thats the point I was trying to make to him just a few minutes ago. If my bid wasnt placed it wouldnt have met reserve and so he would still have to pay his listing cost.

Cheers for all the input!

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by Stu

There is no justification for you paying his listing fees - the seller had to pay them with or without you.

I see what you say and I would say even if in this case it's a bit different but say it's just someone who has decided he/she does want an item after winning an auction?

Originally Posted by Stu

There is no justification for you paying his final value fees - the seller can get a refund if he sends you a "Mutually agree not to continue" form.

True but he still only gets his his listing fee if the item sells second time around. Now you could argue that theseller is maybe being a bit difficult but and there is still a "but" (IMO) about that.

Originally Posted by Stu

I would offer him the £154 and just hope he doesn't give negative feedback, you can always give him negative feedback for being unreasonable if he does.

A bit moot that(offering £154) isn't it if reserve was set at £300



If it were me this(quote below)is more than likely what I would have done and I've done once before and actually gave the fellow a bit for a drink. ......but then I'm a funny fecker like that .

Originally Posted by james160987

just pay the man the fiver, ive done it befor and people have done it to me, he will get a final value fee whacked onto him aswell which is a set % of sale price,

he's happy, youve paid for your mistake and no mark is left on youe feedback or ebay record

Ben

Originally Posted by furrybean

So people cannot see that I have a non paying bidder mark on the account?

Exactly!

Pete

the guy is being amicable, pay up the listing fee (regardless if he will get it back, you have essentially 'messed him around' a bit and you have to make his being amicable worthwhile) and chalk it up to experience! Lets face it you will never do it again!!

just give the guy the fiver you tight git. you messed up and its better to pay out for a couple of pints than loose the 300. let him leave the feedback first and then you will be to return the favour if he screws you.

[Stu]

21quest and others wrote stuff

If you want to give him a fiver, that's up to you. If I was in your position, I'm afraid I wouldn't.

The way I see it is the only guaranteed sale on ebay is Buy It Now with immediate payment required, otherwise seller beware, just as the buyer needs to be aware as well.

I guess it goes back to my dislike of reserve fees. If the guy had started the listing at £300 he wouldn't have wasted your and everyone else's time in the first place

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by Stu

If you want to give him a fiver, that's up to you. If I was in your position, I'm afraid I wouldn't.

The way I see it is the only guaranteed sale on ebay is Buy It Now with immediate payment required, otherwise seller beware, just as the buyer needs to be aware as well.

I guess it goes back to my dislike of reserve fees. If the guy had started the listing at £300 he wouldn't have wasted your and everyone else's time in the first place

How's that the only guaranteed sale? The listing could still run to the end without the person who bought it using "Buy It Now with immediate payment required" still not having paid for it

IMO a reserve listing doesn't waste a anyones time IMO. It's quite clear how it works and all bidders know that from the off. I can't see how that is a problem


Ben