Panorama- The soldiers story

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

We only need to do well at football/rugby/anything to draw the country very quickly together. I imagine that an attack on England may drum up support as quickly.

There is a big differance between geting pi**ed watching a team do well and being prepared to put your life on the line, something i dont belive more people nowadays would be willing to do , even for their country.

And there's a difference between fighting a war you don't want, and protecting your home and family.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

And there's a difference between fighting a war you don't want, and protecting your home and family.

Indeed there is, however I still think a lot more people today compared with the 1940’s would still try to avoid it.

All well and good gobbing off down the pub and picking on some one with 4 blokes, but fighting properly like those lads is a different story, I wonder how many of the c**k sure chavs and lay about’s in this country today would be as co**y when those little bits of lead flying about can kill them??

Originally Posted by neio79

Indeed there is, however I still think a lot more people today compared with the 1940’s would still try to avoid it.

All well and good gobbing off down the pub and picking on some one with 4 blokes, but fighting properly like those lads is a different story, I wonder how many of the c**k sure chavs and lay about’s in this country today would be as co**y when those little bits of lead flying about can kill them??

But wouldn't you love to send them all away to do it

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

But wouldn't you love to send them all away to do it

Yes and no, while I advocate the re-introduction of national service as a tool to helping bring back order to today’s youth, to fill regiments of 110% professional and well motivated men who want to be there with people whose attitude could not be worse would be bloody lethal, I certainly would not want to work alongside nor have trust in someone like that to watch my back and look after me and the rest. Would you??

Maybe put all the conscripts in their own regiments and battalions etc then they only get themselves killed unless they apply themselves, work as a team and learn respect and discipline. I am sure they would change pretty quick compared to being in a normal regiment where they could get away with not pulling their weight and consequently getting people killed.

Back to the panorama The ANA - Afghan army dudes - were just having a giggle, spliffing up in between firefights, strolling about in the line of fire , one of them had his magazine blown out of his hand by a bullit - so lucky. The dude with the rocket launcher loved it !

Agreed they did have a stressful few days but didnt seem all that worried about being pinned down in someones house surrounded by Taliban. I spose the Apache & 500lb bombs beef your confidence...

But as for being called up - forget it ! The soldiers there loved the danger and the firefight, i would hate it, i would also hate the squaddie culture you'd have to put up with, horrible shouty bullies getting you out of bed at 04hundred etc...not for everybodt Adolf!

Originally Posted by pete m

But as for being called up - forget it ! The soldiers there loved the danger and the firefight, i would hate it, i would also hate the squaddie culture you'd have to put up with, horrible shouty bullies getting you out of bed at 04hundred etc...not for everybodt Adolf!

no anly in Basic training really, but there is reasoning behind it. break you down to make you how they want you, and no its not brain washing, its hard to explain unless you have done it but it works an wrks well. morale is all important in those situations.