Independence referendum..

Though i was born english id vote yes.. (then i can make up jokes about it being our version of mexico) just kidding.. same opinion as northern ireland. If the people that live there want independance they should ofcourse be allowed to have it.. and holyrood seems to be doing alot better job than westminster at the moment. i just hope its well thought out and about the facts instead of a campain slogan of a weegie screaming about hating the english

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

Since when did someone from Germany have a say?

Seriously. How long have I been on the forum? I'll let you into a wee secret...*whisper mode* I'm not really from Germany...

I see.

Oh dear. Ah well.

[carelesschucca]

isn't it lucky we weren't independant when The Royal Bank of Scotland went bust.

Originally Posted by carelesschucca

isn't it lucky we weren't independant when The Royal Bank of Scotland went bust.

And HBOS.

[Blue Flame]

Looks like the Independants are streaks ahead in the poll

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Seriously. How long have I been on the forum? I'll let you into a wee secret...*whisper mode* I'm not really from Germany...

Seriously...I've no idea how long you've been on the forum but I go on what I've seen and read from you - bumping your gums and sniping about this year's GM when you're not actually going - hypocritical

You might not "be" from Germany but if you're "domiciled" there then you didn't don't have a say and preaching from afar is as hypocritical at its best!

[SoulKiss]

Being a Scot myself, thought I'd pitch my pennysworth.

I'm not sure if I would want independence or not, as said there are a huge number of factors that I just don't know enough about to make that decision yet.

However on the "where would the money come from" question if Independence WAS the way forwards. Feel free to pick holes in the following, most of it is being written as I think of it rather than it having been a considered set of thoughts, condensed over months of mulling over...

Simple, as a resource-poor (lets leave the oil out of it for now, as said, its running out) nation then the economy has to be fueled by the people, so its going to be skills based.

Fortunately we have a history of doing just that, so IF that can be re-ignited then wheres the problem?

Which skills, well it has been mentioned how well regarded the Scottish members of the UK Armed forces are, wouldn't it make sense to focus on this.

Ok so it means effectively becoming Soldiers for Hire, but the support infrastructure for such a venture would fuel employment, after all the weapons and equipment need to be designed and built somewhere, and by keeping that internal, would create jobs.

I have to admin that the idea above comes from some books I read years ago - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorsai!

One spin off of the becoming "World Police" would be the need for Language to become important, which would also lead to the possibility of the Scots becoming brokers in business with us providing Translation services to the world, if every Scot was taught to be fluent in even one World Language other than English (and I guess we should learn English too). The Language thing would serve the Armed Forces well as well as the Business World.

So basically, build an economy based on the People.

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

Seriously...I've no idea how long you've been on the forum but I go on what I've seen and read from you - bumping your gums and sniping about this year's GM when you're not actually going - hypocritical

You might not "be" from Germany but if you're "domiciled" there then you didn't don't have a say and preaching from afar is as hypocritical at its best!

Stuart, what the heck are you talking about, she's from Newton Stewart and she lives there you walnut. Anyone is entitled to a say and an opinion on anything they wish. And unless I'm reading different threads to everyone else MBK has hardly commented on the GMIV. Unless it's the top secret PM pact thing again...



AND even if she was "domiciled" in Germany, as a Scottish (or British as MBK may prefer) national she would still be entitled to an opinion and to vote on Independence for her home country. Which is why people all over the world get proxy and postal votes.

Originally Posted by fenjer

Unless it's the top secret PM pact thing again...

Let MBK speak for herself. I've no knowledge of where she's from and it says Germany as her location.

As for the "secret pact" - I've had it on good authority that you're behind the secret pact trying to spoil things.