Another prison suicide

Originally Posted by CoolGirl

Which is why a vast majority of homeless people are ex-offenders, ex-forces or both. They just aren't given the tools to integrate into society and end up on the streets and with mental health probelms becasue they can't cope. If either institution is merely a stopgap beween bouts of real life, then it's not helping anyone. (and we spend a lot of money teaching the armed forces basic skills).

Agreed there are a fair few that are homeless but only because they fail to prepare for life after the forces. The forces will give you plenty of help to get housing and jobs, the Resetlement package is good enough. I may be a bit biased as i amin a technical and well educated part of the forces so finding well paid employment after the forces is not going to be that hard.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

You've not got a clue have you.

I do i just have a very different and contrasting POV compared to you FS??

As i have a MRs who is a cop a dad as prison officer and i am in the forces i think i havea well rounded view and opinions on crime, punishment and disapline thank you, and you all know i have no time for the pink and fluffy PC brigade with their lets treat a rapist as a human POV!!

prison is like a holiday camp..................... so i have been told, by people who have been

Hmmm - this is a tricky one me thinks.

For a start the whole system is to blame for this, my reasons are as follows:

When I was a kid (i'm now 32) we used to be quite naughty at times, but a b*ll*cking from an adult or even old bill, would have been enough to scare the life out of us. We, like it or not, respected our elders and most definately the police and any other authority figure for that matter.

Due to the do-gooder/politically correct/human rights OTT society we live in, none of this respect now exists (or is even taught) and it really is noticeable.

A clip round the ear from someone (or even the threat of one) or a really angry b*ll*cking would always have been enough to head off trouble. The problem is kids these days no that you can't do anything or you end up on the wrong side of the law.

What deterrent is that?

Due to my recent accident I am forced to get on the bus and the lack of respect shown to other people by young teenagers is shocking and has made me feel quite sick that the country is this way. It really is bad.

As an example of this:

A few years back I took my (then 4 years old) daughter to the park and we were climbing up a large climbing frame, when bits of pizza started raining down on us. I climbed up to the top to b*ll*ck the person doing this and to my amazement it was a 10-11 year old boy sitting there with a massive pizza hut box in front of him.

I proceeded to bollock him at which point he turned round and said 'What the f*ck you gonna do about it?' - the point is he was right he knew I could do nothing and so rather than being scared and running off as we would have done as kids; he fronted me out with no respect and basically won.

Political correctness has gone too far for me and is the cuase of this culture and we need to go back to 70's and 80's style values to be able to re-gain control of these kids, which in turn will stop (or greatly reduce) instances such as Ed has outlined.

Prison is also too cushy.........make it a tougher option and then less people will re-offend. It is only because prison is not seen as a too bad thing by some that so much re-offending takes place.

Originally Posted by krhall

I proceeded to bollock him at which point he turned round and said 'What the f*ck you gonna do about it?' ace.

he could have , 'acidentaly' slipped from the top of the climbing frame.

It's not tragic.

Tragic is 90000 healthy animals destroyed by the RSPCA each year because they can't find them homes.

Tragic is the 30000 elderly people who die of hypothermia in the UK each year because they can't keep warm in winter and no-one is there to check on them.

Tragic is the waste of resources spent trying to save the less deserving from themselves, resources which could otherwise be spent on the truly needy.

I have no sympathy in this case.

Originally Posted by neio79

he could have , 'acidentaly' slipped from the top of the climbing frame.

Believe me I really wanted to - after he said that I was raging, but I know that it would be me in trouble.

It did make me wonder how a 10-11 year old could a) afford a large pizza £12+ and b) why was he on his own?

It really p*ss*s me off.

Originally Posted by krhall

Believe me I really wanted to - after he said that I was raging, but I know that it would be me in trouble.

It did make me wonder how a 10-11 year old could a) afford a large pizza £12+ and b) why was he on his own?

It really p*ss*s me off.

he probably robbed an old granny for the money, well at leat you should have taken the pizza from him if he was on his own and then said "yeah what you going to do about it?" LOL

Originally Posted by neio79

I do i just have a very different and contrasting POV compared to you FS??

As i have a MRs who is a cop a dad as prison officer and i am in the forces i think i havea well rounded view and opinions on crime, punishment and disapline thank you, and you all know i have no time for the pink and fluffy PC brigade with their lets treat a rapist as a human POV!!

I'm far from the pink fluffy brigade thanks. I'm just a realist.

You take someone only knows crime, throw them prison, treat them like crap and do nothing to rehabilitate them. What do you think's gonna happen when they're released? The only way they know to make money is through crime, but now they're even more detached and angry at society.

Rehabilitation in 'soft option' prison isn't the problem, it's part of the solution.

Originally Posted by neio79

well at leat you should have taken the pizza from him if he was on his own and then said "yeah what you going to do about it?" LOL

then krhall would have probaly got done for somthing

bring back cruxifixion