IHIE Guidelines for Motorcycling

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by rictus01

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i'm glad at least some people found it useful then

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

i'm glad at least some people found it useful then

glad you're not smily challenged then

Well, I thought it was interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Chapter 4 has the Road Design stuff including Bus Lanes, Advanced Stop lines, siting of road furniture etc. If anyone else fancies a look.


It's quite clearly a rather good attempt by a professional body to keep its members up to date with the latest thinking. Continuing Professional Development. What's the problem?

If they had any obvious dangerous mistakes then fair enough. But they don't that I can see.

IMO these sorts of guidelines/publications are very useful in raising awareness and providing guidance for engineers/planners/road safety officers those who are not so bike aware, so I'm glad that this exists for that purpose.

However while guidelines like this are very helpful (esp at a micro level), when it comes to making decisions about policies such as allowing bikes in bus lanes or ASLs, this goes much higher - and beyond where most of us are able to influence.

The people making these decisions are generally very senior and are often politicians. I would be suprised if they were not already aware of safety arguments for things like bikes in bus lanes (thanks to bodies such as MAG/BMF) BUT they are chosing anyway not to make changes to the law to help bikes.

This could be due to conflict with other strategic initiatives, for political reasons, opposition from other lobby groups, costs, etc etc. Also, councils can also be quite nervous about making big policy changes without either lots of strong evidence and/or other councils/govt bodies taking the lead (e.g. TfL, Dept for Transport).

So while interesting, that could be why poeple on the forum are not all jumping up and down about the site. It's useful for industry people, but hard for most others to be able to do much with or to see BIG changes from it. That said though, I have bookmarked it in case I ever get the chance to shove this info under the right peoples' noses...

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Fizzy Fish

IMO these sorts of guidelines/publications are very useful in raising awareness and providing guidance for engineers/planners/road safety officers those who are not so bike aware, so I'm glad that this exists for that purpose.

that's it's intended purpose though, nothing more, i never meant or intended to imply that it would be the motorcycling messiah so to speak, just that it might interest some people to read, and engage a few to ask for the little things that would improve the roads... we already have MAG and the BMF fighting for things like bus lanes, but it's only through cooperation with the highways people that we'll get things like high friction man-hole covers, and junctions designed to incorporate making bikers more visible along with the other design guidelines we get

better than nowt shirley?