Should I smoke Dope?

Just talk to Frank!

Originally Posted by Jester666

Just talk to Frank!

Is he your dealer?

Originally Posted by skint

What worries me are any youngsters that may read this thread could get the impression that smoking dope is relatively harmless and easy to control. Chances are they won't be able to control it and the problem will escalate.

Not likely. There are arguments for and against it. As long as that remains, when the time comes they can choose which side they agree with more. Isn't that what discussion is all about?

The bitchiness seeping in here however is where we need to draw the line.

[Viney]

Heres another view then.

Legalise it. Then put 66% revenue on the price that you all currently pay, then how much fun would it be.

[timwilky]

Viney, I don't know why you bother mate. Those that defend the stuff will never accept there is anything wrong, you will not persuade them. You might as well talk to a brick wall.

I don't do dope. did, all it did was get me hooked on tobacco for a few years. Yes I drink, at least I accept that is in its way harming me. I see dope harming my family and don't like it.

This may sound like i'm contradicting myself a bit as i used to be superfit as a kid and in my teens...football/martial arts and really against drugs.
Then around the age of 17 i was offered a reefer by some friends and tried it,didn't feel as though it did anything,then later when i went home and spoke to my dad i realised just how off my t*ts i was.Have now been a smoker on and off for around 18yrs now and my thoughts are theres nothing wrong with it in your own home behind closed doors after a hard days work to wind down and chill out with,its certainly no worse than alcohol.Have tried your rave drugs Lsd/speed in my late teen/early twentys and that was only recreationly once a month,then when the kids were born they were knocked straight on the head.

Ive never tried hard drugs ie heroin/coke nor did i ever want to,some of my ex mates did thats why there my ex mates as the change in them was terrible(at the end of the day if you can't trust your mates then i don't want them as mates).

Really if it's only recreationly and it's not having any kind of negative affect on your job/family etc i don't see the problem,its only when people havent the willpower/common sense to know when enoughs enough that it becomes a problem.

MY VERDICT
If you want to use fair enough,it does'nt make you a bad person just stay away from the class a sh1te and never let it control your life. Other stuff every now and again(rave drugs right time right place is'nt a bad thing)and when my kids grow up ive been there seen it/done it which puts me in a better position to educate them on the dangers etc.

Bottom line
once in a while makes you smile

Originally Posted by skint

How Viney's comment can be regarded as bigotted is beyond me.

I think the point was that Viney's response is based on personal experience. And a bad one it seems. But that doesn't mean that every one who likes a bit of pot now and again goes out robbing people to feed the 'habit'. It's like saying that anyone who enjoys a pint now and again will end up an alcoholic, it just isn't accurate or true. In fact the majority of those using drugs (except the hard stuff) just do it on occasion for a bit if fun. Not my cuppa but crack on if it's what you like. Personally I don't see the harm in legalising cannabis provided it is monitored and the substance is controlled. I guess then though there is still room for a black market but it will be no worse than today. I would never dream of legalising 'hard' drugs though. One could say that Viney's response was a little bit typically 'defensive'. Just saying it as I see it and I don't even like recreational drugs.

[Viney]

Originally Posted by timwilky

Viney, I don't know why you bother mate. Those that defend the stuff will never accept there is anything wrong, you will not persuade them. You might as well talk to a brick wall.

I don't do dope. did, all it did was get me hooked on tobacco for a few years. Yes I drink, at least I accept that is in its way harming me. I see dope harming my family and don't like it.

Tim me old fruit, i agree.

Im going to go back to my own little bigoted, non sensical world and leve them to it.

Originally Posted by Ping

Not likely. There are arguments for and against it. As long as that remains, when the time comes they can choose which side they agree with more. Isn't that what discussion is all about? Is that why we see so many youngsters smoking? We'll have to agree to disagree on that, I can't accept (given my experience of life - perhaps limited?) that 'kids' can make decisions of this magnitude based on simply reading a thread. There is a natural desire for most to dare the riskier side of life. Surely we shoud be discouraging that approach when we do know better?

The bitchiness seeping in here however is where we need to draw the line.

Seems very mild compared to most threads but I can see what you mean, but it is an emotive subject, choices of words when quoting people can be a bit much - perhaps a bit more care required when stating a disagreement. If only we were all experts in the English language and communication! But who could write the rules.

Originally Posted by timwilky

Viney, I don't know why you bother mate. Those that defend the stuff will never accept there is anything wrong, you will not persuade them. You might as well talk to a brick wall.

And those that say its wrong etc will never accept the others view either.

That's the way of things I guess!