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Old 09-04-08, 04:16 PM   #31
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LUKE MILLAR....Your call on Rossi's head movement or looking ahead is incorrect.You may think that he is not looking beyond a turn because his head is not moved as far as many other riders.Rosis simply has to be looking for the apex and then beyond otherwise he would not corner worth a damn.


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Old 09-04-08, 04:33 PM   #32
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Do we need more evidence????


Front end rider, similar style I seem to have adopted....


Back to the original thread....
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Hi All
I'm after a bit of advice ... when I take a corner i'm pretty certain that i'm not really leaning, i think i 'push' the bike over but keep myself fairly upright. i'm not interested in getting my knee down, but do want to be at one with my bike .... what can i do improve and build my confidence ???
cheers, ian.
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Old 09-04-08, 04:35 PM   #33
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I agree with the diminutive Spaniard, whatever the angle of his head at any one time, it has little influence on the direction his eyes are looking. Just as well, or else Rossi would be looking at the tarmac 5 metres ahead of his bike in Pedrosa's pic.
His focus is probably 20+ degrees further to the right, and certainly elevated a bit.
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Old 09-04-08, 05:12 PM   #34
iane
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Originally Posted by lukemillar View Post
As for body positioning, this is a good read and I took a lot from it :

http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=32
Wow ... excellent read. I clearly noticed some easier stuff to try to correct first ... like getting my butt to the back of the seat . I've taken a 'copy' of the info to re-read every now and then to pick up the points!!!
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Old 09-04-08, 05:27 PM   #35
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Jet skiing is a good way to practice!
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Old 09-04-08, 06:51 PM   #36
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I agree Vale is probably looking further ahead than his head positioning implies, but why does he need to look more than a few feet ahead? The man has done ten gazzillion laps of the track before ... he knows where it goes ... he probably wants to concentrate close in to get the pin-point accuracy a good lap requires ... looking close in you can make sure you are hitting the same spot every lap .. and unwanted undulations are avoided ..
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Old 09-04-08, 07:09 PM   #37
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I'm with Blue on this one - I THINK - I might not be, he'll doubtless correct me if I'm wrong

Anyway, race track and road comparisons are pretty much null and void. In just about any aspect of riding. Take a group of IAM riders round a track and whilst they'll doubtless beat any Joe Bloggs round the track I can guarantee anyone with even just a Clubman licence will beat them like a red headed stepchild. Ask to place bets on who's more likely to get back home without incident though, and I'm inclined to think that the IAM riders are more likely to get home without incident. Race track and road are not interchangeable.

As blue says, track layout is imprinted in the mind once you've done a dozen, a hundred, a thousand laps; your body can almost do it by itself in the same way you can play a musical instrument without looking. Your daily commute however is different, there's a caravan or horse poo or a loose cats-eye behind every corner. My best advice for the road is pretty much as mentioned already, drop the inside shoulder, look where you want to go. For the track my advice would be to approach without any fear, to brake later than you dare, to be utterly ruthless in guarding your line and do whatever it takes to get ahead of the guy in front. As I said, road and track are not really interchangeable...
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Old 10-04-08, 10:05 AM   #38
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Ok - Peter H, Dangerous Dave and STRAMASHER - I never said that he doesn't look ahead. I said that he doesn't look far off into the distance as you are encouraged to do all the time! Even in all the examples shown, look at Rossi vs Lorenzo. Jeez - talk about jump down a man's throat Blue comes across with a valid point, but anyway - the original point I was trying to make with this, in light of the advice being given across in this thread....

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