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Old 01-05-08, 01:55 PM   #31
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I don't need lectures on the value of money or having to work for it thanks!!
Don't post contraversial threads and expect everyone to agree?

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Old 01-05-08, 02:09 PM   #32
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Don't post contraversial threads and expect everyone to agree?

My comment is just my 2p, take it how you will.
I wouldn't have posted it here if I didn't want peoples thoughts and I KNEW there would be haters as I have been so disgruntled on the other side for so long myself as I said, I have been/am very bitter about paying into the pot. There are/were bound to be people as passionate about it as I am and 'sound off' .. doesn't mean I can't give them an e-slap back and point out reality!!!!
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Old 01-05-08, 02:11 PM   #33
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[quote=Blue_SV650S;1496382 and I KNEW there would be haters [/quote]

You use crass, grammatically incorrect Americanisms and hope to teach the children of our nation.......

Oh well I suppose someone has to convert the Youth into Yoof
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Old 01-05-08, 02:28 PM   #34
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You use crass, grammatically incorrect Americanisms and hope to teach the children of our nation.......

Oh well I suppose someone has to convert the Youth into Yoof
Yep, I know quite a few swear words and euphemisms too, I can be quite rude and smutty as well as crass and use incorrect grammar if I feel like it ... guess my heart is impure.

Just one question, do you speak to your parents the same as you do your mates? Your mates the same as you do your kids? Your kids the same as you do your Boss?? Your boss the same as you do your lover?!?!

I could have said all that in one word really ... Diction!
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Old 01-05-08, 02:33 PM   #35
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I'm with Blue on this one.

His JSA is contribution-based. He has worked for it, paid the contributions, satisfies the qualification criteria and is therefore entitled to it - whether he needs it or not. I don't believe in all this safety net stuff, it isn't a discretionary payment, and we have way gone past the old Poor Law.

Having paid through the nose for years, why shouldn't he?? Anyway think how much of it will go straight back to the government in VAT or other taxes.
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Old 01-05-08, 02:37 PM   #36
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Well Blue, I am quite interested in your experience....for several reasons.

1) If you were Polish / Khazakstani / whatever, you would get an interpreter, and your paperwork filled in your you, and told EXACTLY what you can get.
As a national, who has spent their whole life contributing, you get interrogated. This, in my opinion, is fundamentally wrong.

2) I think you are entitled to claim personally. You contributed, why not claim. Although, I persoanlly would have decided what career I want to do, then try to get into it, not spending too much time unemployed. But you do your thing, you are entitled to. You know what you have to live on, what savings you have etc etc.

3) (Slightly off topic here) My brother died recently. My sister in law had to go to one of these chav infested places to start processing paperwork regarding benefits also. She said it was a horrible experience - and she is along way from being posh / snobbish.

Anyway, good luck with the future career!
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Yep, I know quite a few swear words and euphemisms too, I can be quite rude and smutty as well as crass and use incorrect grammar if I feel like it ... guess my heart is impure.

Just one question, do you speak to your parents the same as you do your mates? Your mates the same as you do your kids? Your kids the same as you do your Boss?? Your boss the same as you do your lover?!?!

I could have said all that in one word really ... Diction!
Well I am a computer programmer and I cant even close a forum BBS quote correctly, so what hope is there for me

I also forgot a couple of smilies in there too.......
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Don't post contraversial threads and expect everyone to agree?

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My sister in law had to go to one of these chav infested places to start processing paperwork regarding benefits also. She said it was a horrible experience.
As it happens this is something i agree with you on - i went to one once and it was a v. depressing place. The receptionist left me waiting for ages before putting down her nail file & the phone she was gossiping to her mate on to let me know that i was actually supposed to take a ticket instead of just waiting.

The person who 'served' me wasn't mcuh better - they knew nothing about my line of work and since they didn;t have what I do as an option on their system they showed me jobs that they thought were the same but weren't. Thankfully i never needed to claim any money cos i was lucky enough to find a job myself almost right away, but i def feel for anyone who has to go there regularly, cos it isn't really that motivating or helpful!

I do still stick by the point about us all having a duty to support ourselves if at all possible though
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I wouldn't have posted it here if I didn't want peoples thoughts and I KNEW there would be haters as I have been so disgruntled on the other side for so long myself as I said, I have been/am very bitter about paying into the pot. There are/were bound to be people as passionate about it as I am and 'sound off' .. doesn't mean I can't give them an e-slap back and point out reality!!!!
Truth be told, if i got made redundant tomorrow i may start thinking i'm entitled.

But at the moment... up here in my ivory tower I'll stick with the view that everyone should work if they're not physically or mentally disabled. I would endevour to get a temp job while applying to other places... maybe i've been lucky in the past, but i genuinely have never had a problem finding something straight away, so given that experience I form my opinions.
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Get a job you layabout.
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