101mph in a 60.

Originally Posted by simesb

That is true, but once the equipment is type approved (which it will be if it was in active use) you would have a hard job convincing a court otherwise. And if you went to court, it would be a magistrates court so you wouldn't get a sympathetic jury of drivers

There is all sorts of evidence of radar guns being influenced heavily by angle of use, distance, surface etc, but the type approval wins everytime. I think the only people to have got off are when it has been demonstrated that the equipment was used incorrectly, not any fault with the equipment itself.

And given how much money would have to be handed back if they were ruled to be inaccurate, it'll never happen.

Well we need some multi millionaire to get prosecuted for speeding and to challenge the system. Spent fortune and win it for us. We could build him/her a shrine? Anyone knows anyone suitable?

PS: Does Abramovich ride a bike?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by on yer bike

just don't go telling him that you've done 101mph before and you were nowhere near that speed.. that is one way of incriminating yourself.

My restricted SV does 95mph... of course I had to go to the isle of man before I could find that out occifer

Originally Posted by JamesMio

I feel sick to the core now....I work 11 miles out of town, no buses etc. There's a very very likely case that without my license I could lose my job, that took me years and years of studying and working to get.

Do you need to drive for your work or just to your work mate? If it's the latter then don't worry too much, 11 miles is nothing by bicycle. Seriously, all sorts of fresh air exercise weirdos cycle to my work from much further away than that. Not that you wont be stiff as a board for the first couple of weeks...

If you need to drive for work then start looking at mopeds. You won't get banned for long and it's not like you mowed somebody down when you were ****ed. Your boss speeds too remember, they wont sack you.

Now have a beer and a big exhale

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surely if speedos overread due to inbuilt error, surely 110 indicated is closer to 100. so if you wearnt absolutely nailing it you shouldnt even have been over the ton

Originally Posted by Addicted

But surely that shouldn't be strong enough to do him for 101 which is way more serious than just speeding - which I would accept that a single officer would be able to judge.

Unfortunately, speeding is speeding regardless of the speed itself. So, the requirements to prove it are the same regardless of the speed.

If it were careless/dangerous driving then there is a higher burden of proof, for example, and this is precisely one reason why (hugely) excess speed has been proven in a court of law to not necessarily equate to dangerous driving on its own (not sure if anyone has disproved it for careless).

Originally Posted by Addicted

Any case I've heard about, the police are usually content to do you for speeding at a figure less than 100 even if you were doing more than. Which makes me think that in this case it is just scare tactics.

This is true too, police in person do tend to be more lenient, it's only cameras (for obvious reasons) and camera vans (because they're thinking of the children) that stick you for whatever speed you were actually doing.

Re: the stuff about speed guns not working on bikes - already mentioned but it doesn't matter. There's no way that argument will be listened to, regardless of how accurate it might be

And speaking of pi$$ing in the wind. Clicky.

[JamesMio]

Originally Posted by custard

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surely if speedos overread due to inbuilt error, surely 110 indicated is closer to 100. so if you wearnt absolutely nailing it you shouldnt even have been over the ton

That's what I was thinking. I'm not trying to dodge the blame or consequences for speeding, I was speeding at the point I saw the police car, I can't nor wouldn't deny that. However, I honestly wasn't caning it to the extent the speedo was bouncing - because at that point it would have read 110 - which I may have accepted a 101ph speed gun reading.

I wasn't gunning it that much, I really wasn't, unless I simply misjudged the rate I was picking up speed on the downhill.

Either way, it's not looking (or feeling I should probably mention) good at this moment in time.

As for the license for work, I need it to both get to work and for work - I often get hauled in to drive the delivery pick up (despite being the sole IT person there!), thus lowering my value as an employee.

B0llox b0llox b0llox.

ride down there again and see what gear you were in and then what sort of speed you could attain.. may mitigate the worry slightly...

Originally Posted by muffles

A single officer can't give evidence alone, but what he is doing is backing up the evidence of the equipment - similar arguments are used when a lone policement stops you speeding whilst in his car, he uses his speedo as the primary evidence and he is the back up for the primary evidence. I forget the exact details, i.e. the exact laws that use/require that, but that's the gist of it unfortunately.

Spot on!