BNP Member List

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

Baph how on earth do you know all this information? Im a total computer numpty - are you saying this person did not have a firewall? or was it that you could you tell all this information from the website he hosted it on? Sorry if I sound thick (probably cos I am!)

My instinct was to take this conversation to PM, but I see no real reason to...

The basis of the information comes from the site hosting the list. A hop skip & a jump from there reveals the person's home IP address (as you stated "numpty," think their personal address on the internet).

They do have a firewall, however, as I stated, firewalking is possible. This isn't the art of walking barefoot over hot embers. Firewalking in IT terms, is about seeing what's behind the firewall, and in most instances, accessing it despite the firewall being there.

Needless to say, but their firewall isn't exactly amazingly secure.

EDIT: To get the above information, and consider sending a document to the printer I found, took me approx 20mins from finding the thread. Scary what you can do with these computer-thingy-ma-doo-dahs isn't it? Oh, and I'd better clarify, I just thought about sending a random picture from the internet with the words "You've been a bit silly."

EDIT2: Supprisingly, having a little read around the t'inter-web... most people seem to be taking this the way that the .Org have. ie, BNP aren't fantastic, and we don't really like them, but this information shouldn't be made public. I'm genuinely shocked that I've read very few "pitchfork" comments!!

[Paul the 6th]

you could play with their head abit maybe? Picture of hitler and underneath "You silly ****, you've dropped us all in it"

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

you could play with their head abit maybe? Picture of hitler and underneath "You silly ****, you've dropped us all in it"

Not worth the potential comeback on me.

[Paul the 6th]

still, it would be funny, wouldnt it

Originally Posted by Baph

My instinct was to take this conversation to PM, but I see no real reason to...

The basis of the information comes from the site hosting the list. A hop skip & a jump from there reveals the person's home IP address (as you stated "numpty," think their personal address on the internet).

They do have a firewall, however, as I stated, firewalking is possible. This isn't the art of walking barefoot over hot embers. Firewalking in IT terms, is about seeing what's behind the firewall, and in most instances, accessing it despite the firewall being there.

Needless to say, but their firewall isn't exactly amazingly secure.

So firewalls dont really work then?

Originally Posted by Baph

EDIT: To get the above information, and consider sending a document to the printer I found, took me approx 20mins from finding the thread. Scary what you can do with these computer-thingy-ma-doo-dahs isn't it? Oh, and I'd better clarify, I just thought about sending a random picture from the internet with the words "You've been a bit silly."

EDIT2: Supprisingly, having a little read around the t'inter-web... most people seem to be taking this the way that the .Org have. ie, BNP aren't fantastic, and we don't really like them, but this information shouldn't be made public. I'm genuinely shocked that I've read very few "pitchfork" comments!!

You sound like 007 to me It is scary when I dont really understand it however hard I try! makes me want to give up online banking and shopping (not that ive got any money)

Im not really into politics so dont really know much about this party, but if they're legal then why are people not allowed to belong?

Firewalls do work, but ports are open through the firewall. If its set-up incorrectly then you can potentially get in through those ports. Its like leaving the front door locked but leaving a bedroom window open. Find a ladder then you can get it.

[yorkie_chris]

Firewalls are very dependant on setup. The sort of thing that muppets buy from PC world are a placebo... as a pro-geek like baph can obviously get through in 2 minutes flat.

BNP is a political party, with some controversial policies, and some silly ones, more of a pressure group really. But it's not politically acceptable to be a member, comrade.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

So firewalls dont really work then?

They do, but the security of the firewall is all down to how well the firewall was setup by the person doing it. I.e it was setup by me, you'd get through it because its not my area of expertise, but if setup properly then yes they do work.

Also alot of managers don't "get" I.T. / Internet security and they dont put much focus on it until after they've been hacked that is...

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Firewalls are very dependant on setup. The sort of thing that muppets buy from PC world are a placebo... as a pro-geek like baph can obviously get through in 2 minutes flat.

Soft or hard firewalls?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Firewalls are very dependant on setup. The sort of thing that muppets buy from PC world are a placebo... as a pro-geek like baph can obviously get through in 2 minutes flat.

Eeeek! you saying my Norton security isn't worth the subscription fee I part with annually?