Slip of the tongue!

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

What do you expect him to say, good job Mr Brown? Don't read into it, it's just posturing.

If he wants to be taken seriously as a potential national leader then its his duty to do what is right by the country in a desperate crisis.Regretably he is such a shallow tw&t he wouldnt have any concept of what that is.
They should all read a few history books.Start with 1939--1945.That might teach them about how to and not to behave when the chips are down.

Originally Posted by northwind

You know, that's interesting, because national debt today is 43% of GDP, whereas it was 44% and rising in 1996 That's even including the bank bailouts (apparently... Though I'm not quite convinced, it certainly includes Northern Rock and the timing says it includes the others, but the numbers don't feel right) Though to be fair the bank bailouts don't really fit into the normal national debt model, as they're secured on assets.

As for tax, it's far from a statement of fact that high tax and high spending are a problem. I know you believe it is, of course.

I doubt those figures include the PFI debts racked up by hospitals etc.

I'm open to persuasion on taxation but I've see lots going up, not many going down.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

If he wants to be taken seriously as a potential national leader then its his duty to do what is right by the country in a desperate crisis.Regretably he is such a shallow tw&t he wouldnt have any concept of what that is.
They should all read a few history books.Start with 1939--1945.That might teach them about how to and not to behave when the chips are down.

I suspect he's just playing the game. He won't get to be leader without doing so. That said, he does come across as a bit of a drip.

I wonder what Brown was actually thinking when he said it?
Is he an egomaniac I wonder?

[northwind]

Originally Posted by slark01

I wonder what Brown was actually thinking when he said it?
Is he an egomaniac I wonder?

No, he just got the sentence out of order, "saved the banks and led the world". Oh, OK, he IS an egomaniac but this is just a slip of the tongue.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

I doubt those figures include the PFI debts racked up by hospitals etc.

I'm open to persuasion on taxation but I've see lots going up, not many going down.

It actually does include PFI.

Not denying that tax has gone up. So has spending. Just that I don't think that's intrinsically bad, while you do.

Originally Posted by northwind

It actually does include PFI.

Not denying that tax has gone up. So has spending. Just that I don't think that's intrinsically bad, while you do.

No such thing as a universally bad policy - and when it comes to politics as far as I'm concerned the ends justify the means. I am prejudice towards a more right wing economic arrangement, but if alternatives work better so be it. It's not that I necessary think that extra tax without exception is bad, but I just see lots revenue being wasted (on armies of useless civil servants especially), and I just can't see that as a tax payer we're getting value for money. Therefore I tend to revert towards the more right ring economic way of thinking.

[northwind]

I think the benefits are there to see, though. But we've had the conversation about the NHS etc before, can't be bothered to do it again But I walk without a limp most of the time because of NHS investment, offering modern procedures that wouldn't have been available under the thatcherite model. So I'm in favour

I'd love to know what the real cost of NHS bureacracy actually is, everyone throws it around and says it's too high or promises cuts but I wonder what the numbers are, and what they've been, and how much of it actually does help... Speaking to my osteo consultant, he says he does more surgery and more patient work now because he no longer has to run his deparment, they have a professional beancounter for that, and doctors for doctoring. Sounds like a plan. But I bet it doesn't often work out so neat

[yorkie_chris]

NHS investment is one thing, but there's so much blatant pi$$ing money away that it's no suprise. It's every branch of government that has got that attitude of "oh money... yes we'll just print more of it"

[Richie]

on a lighter note, the last time I'd had a slip of the Tongue, I ended up in deep ****.

quite embarrasing... but she love it.

da dum dum, bum tish...





sorry coat.... Taxi.
U rated and all.