Another "Where`s The Justice" Thread

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

We've been over this. There's no such thing as 100%.

I'd certainly agree 9 years is derisory, but as for the death penalty being the ultimate deterrent, utter utter ********.

If a sentence of life in prison meant life in prison then i`m happy to pay a little bit of my taxes each month to keep them there til the day they die. However as life in prison doesn`t mean life in prison and is more of a "know how to pretend you`re sorry and play the system and you`ll be out in 9 years" then why the hell should I have to fund their short stay after they`ve committed such a heinous crime?

Anyways I don`t want to enter a debate on the death penalty etc. My rant is about injustice and how our judicial system is totally disgusting and outdated.

death penalty gets my vote for the absolute worse, but im im honest iwould like to see is real prisons,

i mean fiar enough these cat d and open prsions for re-introducing into soceity, but for the extreme crimes it should be, a small room, with no entertainet and grool, and hard work , not getting sky tv as they think its agaist there human rights not to have it,

there was a documenty on last about san quntin (?) prision in the states, most said they liked it there, and prefered it there than living in the real world

[punyXpress]

In the last few days I posted regarding parole / early release.
Those who permit such gross early releases should themselves be liable to sanctions if / when those they have released early reoffend, as so many do.
That might just make them think what they are doing!

Originally Posted by Kinvig

I agree that 9 years does sound insufficient...but the DEATH PENALTY?????

FFS.


*cough* Colin Stagg *cough*

And yet another woman found not guilty today in a re-trial of killing a child in her care.

Originally Posted by punyXpress

In the last few days I posted regarding parole / early release.
Those who permit such gross early releases should themselves be liable to sanctions if / when those they have released early reoffend, as so many do.
That might just make them think what they are doing!

An extremely good point

[Luckypants]

9 years for pre-meditated murder and torture? A sick joke. I note that all the trendy liberals are not in this thread telling us how wrong we are to think that this is utter ****e - youi cannot defend the indefensible.

This is EXACTLY the sort of case that make normal law abiding middle of the road folks wonder what the hell is wrong with this country, despair of the justice system, despair of law and order here and get one more step closer to taking matters into their own hands.

In the other thread where the bleeding hearts are telling us how terrible the police were to kill a suspected terrorist, how about they man up, grow a sack and back up the police when they do get it right? And get the wishy washy liberal parole knobends to make life mean life.

Makes me sick.

Originally Posted by Luckypants

9 years for pre-meditated murder and torture? A sick joke. [...]
This is EXACTLY the sort of case that make normal law abiding middle of the road folks wonder what the hell is wrong with this country, despair of the justice system, despair of law and order here and get one more step closer to taking matters into their own hands.....

Whilst I disagree with the death penalty because of the many miscarriages of justice that have been made - I agree with you LP, there is no way this cold blooded killer should ever have only been given 9 years

[northwind]

Doubt anyone's going to disagree that 9 years is too little. it's no short stretch, and the guy's not going to walk out of prison into an easy life with a murder conviction on his CV (not to mention that it was probably the best years of his life down the pan), but for something like this that still doesn't count for much. I wondered at first if maybe the reason he was out was that the blame was going on the other 2, but apparently not either.

The experience at the hearing just rubs salt in the wounds. Not sure what I think about that whole concept, it doesn't really sound like a good idea to me, but that's by the by, it's just kicking her while she's down there. Terrible.

<edit- I'd delete this post now but Luckypants has put a reply up so that would be wrong I think. I didn't explain myself well and I've obviously caused some upset through carelessness. I'm not saying at all that 9 years is enough, just saying that it's also no trivial thing. I still totally agree that it should have been longer, that's not even the average life sentence and the crime was horrendous. What I was getting at is that the guy hasn't gone unpunished, I thought it might help to focus a bit on the price he's paid rather than just on the fact that it's not enough. Small comfort though, if any. Anyway, apologies that it didn't come across right, I should have thought more before posting>

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by northwind

Doubt anyone's going to disagree that 9 years is too little. it's no short stretch, and the guy's not going to walk out of prison into an easy life with a murder conviction on his CV (not to mention that it was probably the best years of his life down the pan), but for something like this that still doesn't count for much.

Get a grip! 9 years is NOTHING, no short stretch? for murder and torture? And as for losing the best years of his life..... the guy was 16 at the time of the offence so will be 24-25 now? He has is whole life ahead of himself as a free man, unlike the poor lad whose life he and his accomplices stole.

Life in prison should be life in prison.