Casey Stoner

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So, it's just the fact that he's not likeable for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by kwak zzr

Doohan or Rossi dont complain, constructive critism yes but blatent moaning no.

That sounds similar to what merlin427 said.

Originally Posted by carty

Anyone who bashes Stoner is just not a fan of the racing. He's a genius on a bike. Who else could have two months off and then come back and finish well ahead of Rossi one race and then fend him off riding an absolute perfect race in his 2nd race back? No-one.

I don't see anyone criticising Stoner the rider. If you look back at my original post in the other thread, you'll notice that I was praising his riding. His personality on the other hand is obnoxious.

When rossi was complaining about his rear grip he finished 4th!! Fair enough!

When Stoner was complaining about his rear grip he had just ridden a fantastic ride! And kept the best in the word behing him. Fair comments would have been to say
"great race, however a few tweaks will show there is still more to come!!"


AND I AM A STONER FAN!!!!! but he needs to do himself some favours!

Originally Posted by Woz

I don't see anyone criticising Stoner the rider. If you look back at my original post in the other thread, you'll notice that I was praising his riding. His personality on the other hand is obnoxious.

But this is top level motorcycle racing, not Big Brother. Why does he have to display a happy, bouncy personality for people to not get on his back everytime he demonstrates his awesome skills?

His personality is not at all obnoxious anyway IMO. He is a young man with incredible talent who has limelight forced on him even though he doesn't really like it. Yes, the limelight goes hand in hand with modern sports but he doesn't ask for it or want it, he just wants to race motorcycles. He is forced to speak to journalists who ask him questions and when he answers honestly rather than just saying 'Good race, thanks to all the team' he gets stick from 'fans'.

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Its nice to see a change from a rider saying things are not perfect, you get so many rider who after the race say everything was perfect for them when i quite clearly wasnt

Originally Posted by Woz

I don't see anyone criticising Stoner the rider.

no one can lol he has certainly tamed that ducati

Stoner is a great rider...

He can ride the Ducati. I simply don't think he is some messiah but somehow he can ride a bike that Melandri, Capirex and Hayden can't...why?...dunno...but too say he is a better rider than Melandri a million per cent is bogus. It may be he is riding a bike which suits his riding style.

Certainly would put Lorenzo ahead of him.

I don't like Carl Fogarty but I can respect the rider but not the man.

Originally Posted by carty

There was no 'whining', Steve Parish just called it that cos he's a kernob who loves Rossi more than anything in the world. Casey said that if he'd got the setup he wanted then he could have gone a bit faster. That's not whining, it's a fact. It may not be the catchy sound-bite that people want to hear but there's nothing wrong with him saying it.

I'm so pleased that Casey is back on form and pushing the boundaries again - how boring would that race have been if Rossi had been won the race out on his own 20 seconds ahead of 2nd place?

Anyone who bashes Stoner is just not a fan of the racing. He's a genius on a bike. Who else could have two months off and then come back and finish well ahead of Rossi one race and then fend him off riding an absolute perfect race in his 2nd race back? No-one.

That's ridiculous, anyone that bashes stoner doesn't like racing? Please. I was GUTTED when Stoner was out, he IS a genius, and amazing on the bike but he is also a whinging git.

I'd rather have him in racing too, otherwise it would be a procession. I want to see exciting racing.

Laguna Seca was a classic I think you'll agree- unfortunately so was the Stoner whining and downright rude and pedantic behaviour afterwards-refusing to shake Rossi's hand was utterly pathetic.

Stoner is a genius off the bike, and a 5 year old kid off it.

I'm with shonadoll. It's not about his on-track skills, more the lack of off-track skills. Bashing equates to not liking racing?!?! Hmm...not exactly how I would put it.

There is always a good guy and bad guy in MotoGP though, and just happens that usually it's the one who is challenging Rossi who is labelled as the bad guy. Used to be Biagi, then it was 'cry baby' Hayden now it's Stoner...or in his absence, Lorenzo.

A whine after a clear win is unsportsman like in my opinion. Regardless of what sport it is. The rest of the field ride their nuts off, then the winner says he had problems and could have gone faster. Rubbing salt?

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Originally Posted by shonadoll

Laguna Seca was a classic I think you'll agree- unfortunately so was the Stoner whining and downright rude and pedantic behaviour afterwards-refusing to shake Rossi's hand was utterly pathetic.

I take it you wouldn't mind someone hitting you coming out of the corkscrew corner?
Emotions took over, that's all.

Originally Posted by TazDaz

A whine after a clear win is unsportsman like in my opinion. Regardless of what sport it is. The rest of the field ride their nuts off, then the winner says he had problems and could have gone faster. Rubbing salt?

So from now on everyone who came in first and says he wasn't 100% happy with the bike is whining?