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fizzwheel · 09-11-09, 02:26 PM

Just to bump what I said earlier, some of you will have seen it at the AR this year...

We paid £700 for this... its not the most attractive vechile in the world, but it has selectable two wheel drive / 4wd high range / 4wd low range. None of your electronic nonsense either a nice lever to select what you want.

It doesnt have the ground clearance of a disco or a landie, but for green laning etc its fine. Its a 7 seater as well. Without the back row of seats in it has a huge amount of space inside.

In 2WD mode its quite car like to drive. It will cruise all day at 70mph on the motorway. We've had 90 out of it with no trouble at all, but it drinks diesel if you do that.

Skip · 09-11-09, 03:11 PM

Here is my Dads Surf - I love it - had 160kph on the clock once (wouldn't recommend it though!) - it towed the Evo on the car trailer like it wasn't even there up to 70mph. MPG is about the 30 mark - nothing special but then its a big vehicle. Off road is good - as Fizzs Maverick it has a lever for the 4WD rather than the modern electronic way. Its getting tired now so I am hinting he needs to sell it to me so I can stick some grippier tyres and do a little green laning

Luckypants · 09-11-09, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by barwel1992

ohh your 18 well you wont get insured on a 4x4 under 25 when you actuly phone them up they will tell you ,you are to young :/ my cusin tried to get in sured on a 2litre rav4 (why i sugested it) and he is 19 nearly 20 you can try but i dont think your going to get any one that will

Not true. My son has no problem getting insurance on his 3.0 petrol SWB Shogun. He does have 4 years NCB though.

TBH if you are just worried about a muddy path, just get some knobbly (-ish) tyres for the car, it will most likely give enough traction for such situations. No need to go to the expense of a full blown 4x4. For light off-roading (like muddy paths) then the Panda 4x4 is plenty capable and really good in snow too.

If you want a full size 4x4 then be prepared for the running costs. There is a few cheap Shoguns / Landcruisers / Fourtracks about. Go Japanese if you want reliability, Landies require you to be handy with a spanner.

You could consider a 4x4 pickup if you don't mind the open back. Lots of Hi-lux / Navarra / L200s about.

_Stretchie_ · 09-11-09, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

OOHHH! Where is Stretchie when you need him!! LOL!

Hello

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel

they seem well priced compared with an equivalent Discovery...

This is true

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel

A Discovery might be an option and it'll have better road manners than a Landrover.

Oi, it IS a Land Rover

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel

It doesnt have the ground clearance of a disco or a landie, but for green laning etc its fine. Its a 7 seater as well. Without the back row of seats in it has a huge amount of space inside.

Oi again... Disco IS a land rover

. Fizz's does get better mileage than the Disco which could deffo be a decision maker, especially if you do a lot of mileage. And for larkin about with your mates I really don't think there would be a lot in it between the two as long as one of you has a rope and both of you have recovery points.

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Originally Posted by Luckypants

If you want a full size 4x4 then be prepared for the running costs. There is a few cheap Shoguns / Landcruisers / Fourtracks about. Go Japanese if you want reliability, Landies require you to be a spanner.

Yeah, it's not cheap running a Disco. But the Tax isn't THAT bad on an older one, mines a 98 one, £190 tax a year.

Depending what you want it for, any of the series model Land Rovers are only group two insurance but you wouldn't want to sit it in all day or do motorway miles and you would end up using yer spanners alot

fizzwheel · 09-11-09, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _Stretchie_

Oi again... Disco IS a land rover

I meant a defender, but you knew what I meant anyway

Actually whilst we're here. Chap at work is selling his 110 Defender, its either an 1984 on a B ( I think )

He wants £1500 cosmetically its a bit scruffy, but underneath its sound. Has tax and MOT. Its a 2.5 L Diesel. No blower on it so dont expect a huge amount of performance out of it...

09-11-09, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I meant a defender, but you knew what I meant anyway

Actually whilst we're here. Chap at work is selling his 110 Defender, its either an 1984 on a B ( I think )

He wants £1500 cosmetically its a bit scruffy, but underneath its sound. Has tax and MOT. Its a 2.5 L Diesel. No blower on it so dont expect a huge amount of performance out of it...

Got a few insurance quotes and hilux surfs were about 2.5k for the year same with that 110 defender, the cheapest was a 2.5l TDI discovery it wasnt a huge increase on what im paying now Land cruisers seem to be cheap as well..

09-11-09, 05:28 PM

Why look at a big 4x4 if your not thinking of taking it off road?
The maverick, freelander, rav 4 etc will more than take you down muddy tracks without carrying the extra weight and are also a smaller car to chuck about too.

09-11-09, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speedplay

Why look at a big 4x4 if your not thinking of taking it off road?
The maverick, freelander, rav 4 etc will more than take you down muddy tracks without carrying the extra weight and are also a smaller car to chuck about too.

I didn't say i wasn't going to take it off road? Thats one thing im quite looking forward to. Saying that I don't particularly get along with small cars

And the a 2ltr diesel rav 4 is no cheaper on insurance than a discovery etc and (from what i've seen) they seem to be a fair bit more. Mavericks arent to bad though and there not exactly small either.

09-11-09, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BanditPat

I didn't say i wasn't going to take it off road? Thats one thing im quite looking forward to. Saying that I don't particularly get along with small cars

And the a 2ltr diesel rav 4 is no cheaper on insurance than a discovery etc and (from what i've seen) they seem to be a fair bit more.

No you didnt say you wernt going to take it off road, you said:-

"After getting my car stuck on a dirt path a few days ago I'm considering looking for a cheap old 4x4"

If you had said:-

"I'm looking for a cheap 4x4 to use on the road and also take greenlaning"

You may have had less unsuitable suggestions and more help with exactly what you were looking for

09-11-09, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by speedplay

No you didnt say you wernt going to take it off road, you said:-

"After getting my car stuck on a dirt path a few days ago I'm considering looking for a cheap old 4x4"

If you had said:-

"I'm looking for a cheap 4x4 to use on the road and also take greenlaning"

You may have had less unsuitable suggestions and more help with exactly what you were looking for

Later on in the thread i said that i wanted to take it offroading

09-11-09, 02:26 PM	#31
fizzwheel Super Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,614	Re: 4x4's Just to bump what I said earlier, some of you will have seen it at the AR this year... We paid £700 for this... its not the most attractive vechile in the world, but it has selectable two wheel drive / 4wd high range / 4wd low range. None of your electronic nonsense either a nice lever to select what you want. It doesnt have the ground clearance of a disco or a landie, but for green laning etc its fine. Its a 7 seater as well. Without the back row of seats in it has a huge amount of space inside. In 2WD mode its quite car like to drive. It will cruise all day at 70mph on the motorway. We've had 90 out of it with no trouble at all, but it drinks diesel if you do that. __________________ Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. K5 GSXR 750 Anniversary Edition

09-11-09, 03:11 PM	#32
Skip Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,151	Re: 4x4's Here is my Dads Surf - I love it - had 160kph on the clock once (wouldn't recommend it though!) - it towed the Evo on the car trailer like it wasn't even there up to 70mph. MPG is about the 30 mark - nothing special but then its a big vehicle. Off road is good - as Fizzs Maverick it has a lever for the 4WD rather than the modern electronic way. Its getting tired now so I am hinting he needs to sell it to me so I can stick some grippier tyres and do a little green laning __________________ '81 Honda H100A '18 Honda MSX125 (Grom)

09-11-09, 05:28 PM	#37
speedplay Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 4x4's Why look at a big 4x4 if your not thinking of taking it off road? The maverick, freelander, rav 4 etc will more than take you down muddy tracks without carrying the extra weight and are also a smaller car to chuck about too.