Policy needed for dealing with aggressive cyclists

All the kids at my school had to undertake a Cycling Proficiency course to make them better road users.

As a road user, all bicycle owners should be encouraged to go on comething similar, like a basic CBT.

A professional bicycle user i.e. a courier, should be required to undertake such a course. If bike users were required to have insurance then there could be reductions in teh cost of premiums for all other cyclists that also undergo the course.

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Originally Posted by Ed

Oh I accept that I didn't see the bloke - probably a SMIDSY - but doesn't anticipation apply to cyclists too?

Yes

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Originally Posted by Kinvig

All the kids at my school had to undertake a Cycling Proficiency course to make them better road users.

Originally Posted by Kinvig

As a road user, all bicycle owners should be encouraged to go on comething similar, like a basic CBT.

A professional bicycle user i.e. a courier, should be required to undertake such a course. If bike users were required to have insurance then there could be reductions in teh cost of premiums for all other cyclists that also undergo the course.

Can't disagree with this, maybe the couriers ought to be licenced, and if they're caught jumping red lights then givem points & a fine.

Can't agree with putting plates on bikes & licencing them, as more encouragement is needed to get people back on their bikes, this is an expensive and bureaucratic nightmare. It wouldn't pay for itself as the Govenment would pocket all the money

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Holland -land of the cyclist--all bicycles have a small reg plate either on the rear mudguard or at the rear of the saddle--------------Simple answer

Unless that has happened over the last few months that is not the case.

Part of the traffic regulations (etc) in the Netherlands is that if you as a car driver hit a bicycle from behind it is per definition the car's fault. Now that will make car drivers look won't it.

The problem in this country is that there is no proper provision in the form of cycle lanes and other priority provisions for cyclists making it unsafe and dangerous for cyclists. This prevents new cyclists using the road, therefore there are not enough cyclists on the road to make it necessary to notice them. This is why car drivers and pedestrians don't 'look for them'. If car drivers don't want to see motorbikes they definately won't register cyclists, besides who is going to win? Power to the cyclists, but until that I'll stick with my motorbike as I simply don't feel safe in this county on a bicycle and one of the reasons I wanted a motorbike, to get noticed a bit more.......

Originally Posted by wow

.....This is why car drivers and pedestrians don't 'look for them'. If car drivers don't want to see motorbikes they definately won't register cyclists, besides who is going to win? Power to the cyclists, but until that I'll stick with my motorbike as I simply don't feel safe in this county on a bicycle and one of the reasons I wanted a motorbike, to get noticed a bit more.......

I used a bicycle for a while - I've never felt so vunerable in my life - people brushed past me way too close (tbh I'm pretty sure that they just didn't see me!) I sold it in the end - I'm pretty sure they still don't see us on motorcyles but at least we have power to get out of situations, and can use the whole of the road as and when situations dictate.

I happily cut cyclists a fair amount of slack and always try and given them plenty of space. Generally I find them fine, they tend to be pretty live and let live, as with most bikers.

But I had a really aggro one shove me and shout a load of abuse at the lights the other day. My crime? I was SHOCK HORROR riding in a bus lane (where, incidentally I am allowed to go), waiting patiently behind a somewhat wobbly cyclist who was passing another one, so that I could pass with plenty of room. Mr Tour de France raced up behind me and was outraged that I didn't instantly fling the motorbike out of his way, him being a clearly superior being on his bicycle.

Jeez, if that's how he gets oversomething like that he must have a very stressful daily existence in London...

Interestingly it was the other cyclists who pulled him into line. Maybe that's the answer, peer pressure?

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Of course we also need to go alongside the policy for dealing with dangerous and aggressive cyclists one for

Dangerous & Aggressive pedestrians
Dangerous & Aggressive motorcycle riders
Dangerous & Aggressive car drivers
Dangerous & Aggressive van drivers
Dangerous & Aggresive lorry drivers

etc etc etc etc

You can't legislate against stupidity or those that think that laws and common sense dont apply to them...

Some people are just idiots...

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Some people are just idiots...

Who, me?????

Originally Posted by maviczap

HaHa the old 'Don't pay road tax' line. I've got 2 cars & 2 motor bikes so pay more than my share. All my biking mates have cars, so they pay too, so how many cyclists don't own cars these days?

Agreed !!!

............ pathetic really .....

If you have an issue with people not paying road tax, it needs to be with the BMW 118d drivers

I spent many months cycling to and from work and used my motorbike riding techniques to avoid confrontation , including having eyes in the back of my head . Yet ...... a couple of months ago , the Local Lycra Cycling Nobbs from Rhos-On-Sea cycling club were riding 2 abreast down my local road , I gave the horn a quick toot from a long way away to warn of my impending arrival and gave a cars width distance from the furthest rider (as stated by the highway code despite me being on the SV) and another warning toot as I got closer . One of them decides that in this narrow road it is now ok to ride 3 abreast and caused me to take action and go onto the wrong side of the line as he aggresively swerved out to try ride past his buddies . This , as you can imagine got me to flip my visor up alongside the pillock and ask him if he bothers to look despite knowing a bike was approaching and 2 warning toots .... he just blinked and looked stupid , so obviously he was profoundly deaf as well as having an attack of stupidity .