Future classics - what do you reckon ?

[maviczap]

Always wanted a Katana 1000, these are classics already?

[yorkie_chris]

I fancy a 7/11. Got the 7 bit in a barn at my mates place, just need to find a lump of 11 for the middle of it and associated bits.

[5hort5]

Classics for me would be:

In original first year condition

Honda Fireblade - The first one in urban tiger
Kwak ZZR1100 - again the first
Suzuki hayabusa
Kwak ZX7R slab side
GSXR750 - the first one
Ducati 916
Bandit 1200
Suzuki TL1000S - Widow Maker (edited from R to S, thanks for the correction YC )
Yamaha V-Max

[yorkie_chris]

The TL1000S was the widow making one, heard it referred to as a hedge-seeking missile too
Want one!

All the 2 strokers i think will be classics. A Dutch guy had one in storage for 20 years (KR1S) and it is now worth a fortune. A Mint, no-mileage 2 stroke motorcycyle. Yum!.

Original R1, yes.
The 250 two-stroke sports bikes.
Ducati 916.
Some Bimotas, Moto Guzzis and MV Agustas.
Hayabusa.

It probably helps if despite being built in great numbers the bike in question is prone to being damaged beyond repair.

Originally Posted by barwel1992

i dont think the sv will be a classic

and the yamaha R7 is/should be a classic

The R7 is already a kind of classic, more of a myth and a legend though. In reality, who would shell out £25,000 for a <100 bhp 750, with a super peaky engine that has no bottom end? Also, there are substantial observations of big end faliure (iirc) on bikes with the race kit fitted (cant remember exactly why but you can have the crank modified I think to eliminate oil stavation). I'd save my money and get an RC45 or RC30 - there are so many people who have nodified them and retained reliability, and not only that, you get that unique V4 sound. And gear driven cams, huzzah!

Hayabusa definatly. TL1000S definatly. TL1000R not really. SRAD GSXR...yea ok, YC you sold me on that one 1st incarnation R1 yea. 1992 fireblades are already classics, many people seek them out.

Personally, I really like the first gen GSXR1000's. I don;t know why, they are the most basic incarnation of that bike, I like that

[yorkie_chris]

How the hell do you end up with a super peaky 750 with <100bhp*? SRAD750 is over 100bhp stock, and I've heard of oil cooled 750's tuned up to a mental degree.

*other than by making a complete balls up of the job...

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

How the hell do you end up with a super peaky 750 with <100bhp*? SRAD750 is over 100bhp stock, and I've heard of oil cooled 750's tuned up to a mental degree.

*other than by making a complete balls up of the job...

He isnt talking wet mate. On the road it was very poor! It only got anywhere near powerful after you got a race kit on it.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

How the hell do you end up with a super peaky 750 with <100bhp*? SRAD750 is over 100bhp stock, and I've heard of oil cooled 750's tuned up to a mental degree.

*other than by making a complete balls up of the job...

Yamaha did intend the bike as a race bike I suppose, then jsut sort of threw on some lights and indies and a numberplate holder, and detuned it a bit so it would suit all markets. It did seem silly if you wanted it for a road bike, but as a race bike it sort of made sense - the race kit was freely avaliable to R7 owners (I think you had to prove your racing intentions if you wanted one!) and unleashed nother 40 odd bhp, so 140 was easy out of the crate (almost). Although I suppose really it was cheaper for average joe to buy a SRAD 750 and spend the extra cash on tuning that...I supose the yamaha would have had better handling though courtesy of its track-orientated everything

(it better had for that sort of money!)