An Open Letter to Gordon Brown

Israel has the same right to defend themselves in the same way here we have the right to flatten Iraq or cosovo or afganistan. The fact you don't like their methods is of little matter really. If the uk govt don't approve of what is happening there then maybe they should take the suicide bombers from Hamas or the lovely Palestinians that blow up clubs full of 18 year olds or the ones that build weapon warehouses underneath schools.

Again you are all good with words and assume people only believe the stories and propaganda from Israel but why don't you try carrying a gun, as a soldier trying to protect your country. I stand by my comment you are a keyboard warrior even though I know nothing about your past.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by 600+

Israel has the same right to defend themselves in the same way here we have the right to flatten Iraq or cosovo or afganistan.

So no right at all then by your own argument

Tell me a couple of things:

Why do "we" have the right to flatten Iraq?

Why do "we" have the right to flatten Afghanistan?

Whats cosovo got to do with the current "wars"?

Indeed you have no right and cosovo was another collaborative action from the UN and the uk sent troops there to assist.

We here should stop criticising what is happening in every single place around the world when

1) we created the mess
2) we do nothing to sort it out. And I mean practically nothing. Sending letters is good for when they run out of toilet paper in London.

[Spiderman]

can you not answer my 3 simple questions above?

Thought I did you have no right is the answer to the firt 2 and think I've already answered the 3rd

[Spiderman]

Ok you've properly baffled me now with your use of "we" and "you".

Are you saying that israel is not right in what its doing or not?

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by 600+

Israel has the same right to defend themselves...

What they're doing and have done in Gaza is not defensive in the slightest. In 22 days Israel killed roughly the same number of Gazan civilians as there have been Israeli victims of Palestinian terrorism since 2000, despite their "best efforts" to minimise civilian casualties by using illegal or indiscriminate weapons like white phosphor and cluster bombs, and by targeting schools and UN buildings where people were instructed to shelter...

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Ok you've properly baffled me now with your use of "we" and "you".

Are you saying that israel is not right in what its doing or not?

I think this is where you missed my point initially I never chose sides. I have been saying that Israel is doing the same thing the uk is doing elsewhere. If you or I don't like it then don't send letters and criticise the civiliants of each country. Do something about it!

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

What they're doing and have done in Gaza is not defensive in the slightest. In 22 days Israel killed roughly the same number of Gazan civilians as there have been Israeli victims of Palestinian terrorism since 2000, despite their "best efforts" to minimise civilian casualties by using illegal or indiscriminate weapons like white phosphor and cluster bombs, and by targeting schools and UN buildings where people were instructed to shelter...

There were no WMD in Iraq either and neither were in cossovo. Didn't see anyone from the uk doing anything about it. Mr Blair is out at large enjoying his fat big paycheck while he destroyed a country

[Spiderman]

Right but you are confusing 2 issues here as TLW pointed out to you. Yes ok both are illegal.

As for letter writing, its an open letter to the Prime Minister of this country signed by many influential people and PMs alike, so its not just "letter writing".

As or do something about it, well others are. Like the Viva Palestina group who have been taking aid themselves to Gaza to help where govts wont. And how do they get treated?

Dozens Wounded as Egypt Blocks Gaza Aid Convoy

In Egypt, around fifty-five people were reportedly wounded Tuesday when Egyptian forces clashed with members of an international delegation trying to bring humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip. Several protesters were hospitalized with injuries from rocks and tear gas. The Viva Palestina convoy of nearly 200 trucks departed Britain last month. Convoy leader and British lawmaker George Galloway said the group protested after Egypt tried to force dozens of trucks to pass through Israel.

George Galloway: “Together with myself and other leaders of the convoy, we were involved in negotiations with the Egyptian authorities about their determination to remove more than fifty-five of our vehicles and send them to the Israeli checkpoint. We refused this because it’s a breach of the agreement that we reached in Aqaba between the government of Egypt and the Turkish side, and it is completely unconscionable that 25 percent of our convoy should go to Israel and never arrive in Gaza, because nothing that goes to Israel ever arrives in Gaza.”

The Egyptian government has blocked hundreds of Palestinian solidarity activists from entering Gaza around the one-year anniversary of the US-backed Israeli assault that killed over 1,300 Palestinians.