The Bad Boss - generics

I'm waiting for darylB's contribution to the thread

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by pete m

its only the self employed and those that are bosses / managers themselves who are n/a re this one...oh and the dole rs ..ahem...anyway - bigger question is...what to do about it? Everyone here dislikes him, many of us cant stand him....so we could present a united front...or join together in a strategy, but what should it be ?

In my experience united front only works if you are all united, even then you can guarantee that people wont stick by the rest of you and your united front will erode away till you i.e. the spokeperson looks like a complete tw*t and your boss will then blame you for and I quote "being a sh*t stiring difficult awkward to work with employee" because thats what I got told when I spoke up for the people in my team who were just as fed up as I was. Of course when it came to the crunch they never spoke up and backed me up and I looked like a complete idiot. Never again never ever again will I do that. 3 months later they all moaned again about the same manager and asked me if I would speak up, needless to say I told them to feck off and do their own dirty work.

My advice is wait it out, keep your gob shut and dont cause trouble. Play said manager at their own game and do what they ask when they ask, if they are completely incompetant then eventually they will slip into a vat of their own sh*te and get fired. ( see my post above ) It can take a while though....

Some people are unfortunately just bullies, quite often these bullies take the form of managers...

agreed Fizz - that little bit of power just fries ordinary peoples brains until the adolf in them comes out...so often the case....

but what youa re saying about them being incompetent is not the case with us...this guy is so on the ball its scary, he doesnt miss a thing, he's just so anal you can well imagine him making mental notes that you were 4mins 35secs on Wed, and 2mins 45secs late on thurs....etc ....bleedin nitemare , especially when you are used to a relaxed atmosphere where people are treated like adults.....

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by pete m

..this guy is so on the ball its scary, he doesnt miss a thing,.

Never browsed the forum at work have you?

Ha, it's well known here that I'm partly deaf. But I'm not that deaf. Some think I'm blind too

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

My advice is wait it out, keep your gob shut and dont cause trouble. Play said manager at their own game and do what they ask when they ask, if they are completely incompetant then eventually they will slip into a vat of their own sh*te and get fired. ( see my post above ) It can take a while though....

Very true. While one of my managers in a previous job wasn't a bully, he WAS A **** who turned a productive office around into one with a backlog of work so huge it took the rest of the year to clear it. He outright lied to us about our duties claiming we had in fact been lied to by the previous manager.

And yes, in the end, he was only pulled from the vat of his own doings so they could get better purchase on his backside to kick him out the door

[Biker Biggles]

Interesting thread.I regard this issue as the true "British Disease".
Unlike some who historically have blamed lazy workers or unions I think poor quality managers have destoyed this country by a combination of incompetance,arrogance and hypocricy.Certainly where I work managers represent the triumph of ambition over ability where cronyism,sychophancy and corruption are the qualities required and the organisation is in permanent crisis as a result.Yet none of them gets called to account for it.They just blame the people below and bully them accordingly.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Interesting thread.I regard this issue as the true "British Disease".
Unlike some who historically have blamed lazy workers or unions I think poor quality managers have destoyed this country by a combination of incompetance,arrogance and hypocricy.Certainly where I work managers represent the triumph of ambition over ability where cronyism,sychophancy and corruption are the qualities required and the organisation is in permanent crisis as a result.Yet none of them gets called to account for it.They just blame the people below and bully them accordingly.

Add to your list complacency, ignorance and narcissism. It's all self-perpetuating. Unions are no longer the issue, and I think that the claims against them have been blown out of proportion. The issue now is big business, where this sort of behaviour is rife. The government should have let HBoS go to the wall, no business is too big to fail. Perhaps some of the people who made the crass decisions they did at your and my expense would have been forced to explain themselves in disqualification proceedings.

[5hort5]

Erm, I never not had a bad boss since being at my current company (13 years) and have had a few, some of the people I work with i don't see eye to eye with but as bosses go both my manager and my managers manager are great, hard working but fair. One of the main reasons why although changing roles at least six times I've not left the company

[Sir Trev]

I've worked for my current boss for six months and I've never met him! We're not allowed to travel unless we can bill it to a customer so I'm never likely to. Which means we only ever have short phone calls so he does not know what I can do or help him with. Plus, as a programme manager, he has no idea what to do with an accountant as our professions are different, leading to over-management and a lack of trust.

Thank goodness I leave the company at the end of the month!

He's not even close to the worst one though. The stupid cow who never set me any objectives one year then claimed I got no pay rise because I under achieved really took that honour. The only saving grace was the introduction at the same time of the "360 degree review" where I got to tell her boss exactly how rubbish she was, in graphic detail. She left very shortly afterwards! Mwahahaha...!!!!