Traffic offence - Org's thoughts?

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by Stu

I thought it was the front of your vehicle.
So how does an Artic get through traffic lights? the cab could be through on the Green with the trailer taking all of the amber & some red.

Actually technically the artic driver would commit an offence if the trailer was straddling the stop line and moving when the light went red. In reality common sense prevails and the general rule applied in my experience is if the driver sees a red light (provided the light is next to the stop line and not across the junction) then they have jumped them, if it changes behind him he hasn't.

Oh, and I did a bit of asking around at work today on the general view around doing someone based on the colour of your light, ie: if the coppers is green yours must be red. Apparently there has been some case law around that and if the copper can show that their light was green (maybe on the car video) there is a presumption that your light was red, and it will be for you to show that it wasn't. That goes against the advice I gave earlier and I'm not entirely convinced by it, but you ought to be aware there is some alternative opinion around...

[yorkie_chris]

But there's nothing to say one set of lights could be saying "prepare to go" before the other says "stop"?

[Red Herring]

It would be pretty unusual to find a set that go red/amber (ie: prepare to go) before their opposing set change to amber, which means stop..... There are plenty though that change to red/amber when the opposite one goes red.