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Old 19-05-10, 06:02 PM   #31
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I share your outrage,but with one proviso.The "Pakistani terrorists"you refere to here were investigated very thoroughly by our security services and the upshot was that there was not enough evidence to convict them of anything.Now I dont believe for one moment that they are innocent,but why can we not procecute these people(and many others like them)and then put them in prison where they belong?I would have no problems with exporting them after they did their time either,whatever the judicial habits of the destination,but I do have a problem with just labelling people as terrorists without proving it in court.
By all accounts they showed intent. They were investigated and a warrant was issued based upon the evidence found.

Was only some decrepit old judge (the kind that blames child rape on the victim for wearing a skirt) that let them stay because they might be tortured if they go home. They were planning to blow themselves up FFS.
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Old 19-05-10, 06:10 PM   #32
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So why were they not charged and convicted of conspiacy to---whatever?
I cannot understand this countrys reluctance to prosecute these "terrorists",unless there is no evidence.If they cant produce evidence under our system of justice they are not guilty
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Old 19-05-10, 08:54 PM   #33
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Bri, Ed, In my strong opinion, if they are worried about going back to their own country because of persecution or whatever then dont commit crime in their adopted country, simples.
So who gives a toss what happens to them if we ship em back, you lose human rights and my compassion the moment you try and harm a resident of this country, tuff titty imo.

Btw, speed limits need reviewing, driving assessments(not re-testing) for older people and non residents.
People from overseas who decide to reside in this country long term should need to pass the test of this country.
Loads of other laws and stealth taxes need to be looked at as well.
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Old 19-05-10, 09:19 PM   #34
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Here's a few more

The law that clobbers you with fines if you're late with your self assessment return

The Special Immigration Appeals Tribunal needs review

Asylum seekers...

Stop and search without suspicion should be reviewed

The right to peaceful protest should be honoured, not ridiculed and constrained, and people should feel free to say what they think wiithout fear of being on a terror list or on a police video for years to come

Key Stages 1 and 2 should be scrapped and the 11 plus reintroduced

Council Tax is unfair and needs review

Business rates suck big hairy donkey balls. I pay a bloody fortune and I have no say in how it's fixed (note the word 'fixed'), or how it's spent and if I refuse to pay I get prosecuted

Common Agricultural Policy and Fishing Policy need review or preferably scrapping as far as the UK is concerned

Motorbike number plate law

Criminalisation of no Home Information Pack - has anyone been prosecuted for marketing a property illegally?

No smoking in pubs needs review to stop more pubs closing
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Old 19-05-10, 09:41 PM   #35
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Here's a few more

The law that clobbers you with fines if you're late with your self assessment return
Agree
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The Special Immigration Appeals Tribunal needs review
Disagree, no need to review, scrap them, no right to appeal. Your gone
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Asylum seekers...
No such thing. Economic migrant. asylum should be first safe country, not the country of preference.
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Stop and search without suspicion should be reviewed
No need. Plod would never search anyone without suspicion. Would they?
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The right to peaceful protest should be honoured, not ridiculed and constrained, and people should feel free to say what they think without fear of being on a terror list or on a police video for years to come
Agree. We are a democracy. Everyone has the right to have their peaceful views heard. But can we use the legislation to stop the street preaching, door knockers etc.
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Key Stages 1 and 2 should be scrapped and the 11 plus reintroduced
Agree, but you then need somewhere for those that pass to go rather than the local one size fits all comp
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Council Tax is unfair and needs review
Definitely, all service users should pay.
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Business rates suck big hairy donkey balls. I pay a bloody fortune and I have no say in how it's fixed (note the word 'fixed'), or how it's spent and if I refuse to pay I get prosecuted
Agree, it is unfair. rates should be based on business turnover/no employees, profitability etc.
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Common Agricultural Policy and Fishing Policy need review or preferably scrapping as far as the UK is concerned
It isn't common. the rest of Europe do the bits they want
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Motorbike number plate law
Definitely. No plate required.
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Criminalisation of no Home Information Pack - has anyone been prosecuted for marketing a property illegally?
Agree they are worthless
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No smoking in pubs needs review to stop more pubs closing
You go in the wrong boozers. When the doors are locked, everyone has gone home and the law is already being broken, who cares about breaking another.
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Old 20-05-10, 12:58 AM   #36
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I think every single law that has been passed by labour in the last 12 years need reviewing by a vast group of normal people who have a modicum of common sense.
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Old 20-05-10, 01:02 AM   #37
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So why were they not charged and convicted of conspiacy to---whatever?
I cannot understand this countrys reluctance to prosecute these "terrorists",unless there is no evidence.If they cant produce evidence under our system of justice they are not guilty
You know what, this might really surprise you so you'd best sit down.

Even before the terror laws heroically introduced by Neu Arbieten, blowing yourself and dozens of innocent civilians to pieces was actually still illegal.
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Old 20-05-10, 10:40 AM   #38
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You go in the wrong boozers. When the doors are locked, everyone has gone home and the law is already being broken, who cares about breaking another.

Disagree, its a much more pleasant atmosphere without it and I don't appreciate the stink of it. By all means smoke but I don't want it thanks.
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I miss it. I've given up smoking nearly 6 months now and I still miss it. Have stopped going in one of the local pubs because the lack of that smoky fog means you can smell all the sweaty slappers and stale ale.

I dunno why his tonyness decided to declare all out war on the pub trade, the w*nker. Rest of Europe sensibly ignores most of the EU bollox anyway. Have no trouble smoking in pubs in Spain. How come we get labored (lol) with the silly c***s who like applying rules?
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Old 20-05-10, 10:47 AM   #40
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Its because the majority of us dont smoke.

If like you say the pub smells then its obvious why its not goin to do well! Pubs were in decline well before this ban.

Anyway, all you have to do is go and drink more, funnily enough all my local pubs seem to be getting by fine! Being in Barnsley might help somewhat (right bunch of pi$s heads ).
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